Mobius Dash Camera Review

[tmpz]

Mobius Dash Camera Review

eBay Seller (eletoponline365)
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mobius-ActionCam-Full-HD-Sports-Camera-1080P-30FPS-720P-60FPS-Pocket-Camcorder-/151071891306?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Came ras&hash=item232c961f6a&_uhb=1
Mobius Camera - All at Angles
http://i.imgur.com/vABPQ6d.jpg

Mobius Camera - Packaging (Mount, Mobius Camera, USB Cable, Velcro Sticky, Lens Cap, Lens Adjustment Tool)
http://i.imgur.com/Ggg5IJd.jpg

This camera is the successor to the 808 #16 key chain camera and it inherits a lot of the features.
The Mobius camera is pretty small compared to the other dash cameras.
It does 1080p at 30 FPS and 720p at 60 FPS. I haven't played much with 720p, but I have heard that it does something weird by cutting/cropping the image from 1080p to 720p.
The high bitrate for the video is about 18 megabits which is really high. A lot of dash cameras do not have a bit rate this high. I believe the BlackVue DR400G is about 10 megabits.
The exposed heatsink does get very hot when it's recording. It's been in my car during the hot summer days in the last 4 weeks. I haven't seen any issues yet.
It has a small battery which can be easily replaced. I think the eBay sellers have replacement parts, just have to message them.
I had to play around with focusing the lens using the key tool provided. Basically the tool unscrews a tiny screw allowing you to turn the lens to adjust the focus. Be careful when you unscrew because if you go too far the screw comes out and you might lose it.
For a dash camera, it has the basic needs: continuous loop recording, auto power on/off, date stamp, flip image, write protect on current video, audio on/off, different color LEDs for different statuses.

The camera took 17 days to arrive from China. I didn't have to pay custom/duty fees.

Pros:

+ Small
+ 1080p at 30 FPS
+ 18 Megabit Bitrate
+ Awesome price at $70 CAD
+ 64GB microSD - Unofficial Support
+ TV-Out - great for head units with TV-In for live display
+ Constant firmware updates/bug fixes
+ Android app for configuration: aMCA Mobius AC
+ Huge community at RCGroups forums for support/feedback


Cons:

- No GPS
- No G-Sensor or Motion Detection (Rumor: motion detection may be added in a later firmware)
- No HDMI/HD output
- No Screen - not a big deal when you can use USB OTG on an Android phone for playback and configuration
- Night time recording needs some improvements


Overall a fantastic dash camera!


Sample Clips
Below are some sample clips. I don't think I changed anything in these videos. So the firmware, configuration (HDR: On, Bitrate: High, Flipped Image: On, Timestamp: On, Loop Recording: On, Clip Length: 5mins) and focus are the same in each video.
The raw files and Youtube look almost the same, just a slight loss on Youtube.
Make sure you watch in 1080p!

Cloudy Day - No Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmaS9cKCmpQ

Sunny Day - No Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ctvwn4NewI

Dusk - No Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0GmzFtDwDE

Night - No Sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2YGvM548oc


Windshield Mount
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Windshield-Mini-Tape-Mount-Holder-for-Mobius-Action-Sports-Camera-/161054762107?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
http://i.imgur.com/A5jlSJB.jpg

It's just a standard mount with 3M tape. The angle can be adjusted and keeps it in place. The camera spins on and gets tighten by the smaller "disc".
The only issue I have is that if you're trying to eject the microSD or touching the camera, you may turn the camera left or right a bit because of the spin on.
There is a suction mount available, but I don't think it's as stable and you have to re-aim the camera every time.


12V USB Charger
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Mini-USB-Car-Charger-Adapter-for-Media-Player-Cell-Phone-iPhone-Ipod-/180942478506?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
http://i.imgur.com/68e2Fkbh.jpg

It's recommended to get the charger from the eBay seller. It needs to be 12V/1A.
If you plan to have it wired to your car, you will need this.
I didn't realize I needed it until I contacted Lockdown Security for installation. Luckily I found a very similar one at First Markham Place for $5.


TV-Out Cable
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TV-Out-Cable-for-Mobius-ActionCam-Sports-Camera-/181166013424?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
http://i.imgur.com/78UZjaG.jpg

I actually got this as a free gift from the eBay seller.
This cable can be used on a TV or a head unit that has TV-In to view live video or to playback pictures or video by using the buttons on the camera.
I think this would work really well with the Eonon D5151 or similar. The only downside is that the video is SD only. It would be great to have HD output via HDMI.


Installed by Lockdown Security
http://i.imgur.com/HIacKpGh.jpg

I got my dash camera professionally installed by Lockdown Security for $25. I brought the camera, the windshield mount, the 12V USB, 15ft USB to mini-B USB cable and my car to Lockdown Security.
It was connected so that it wouldn't occupy my 2 existing 12V ports and it would only turn on when the car is on.
I was in and out in 30 mins. The wire was tucked nicely and the camera didn't obstruct my view. Thanks again to Brian@Lockdown Security.


Kingston SDCX10/64GB 64GB Microsdxc Class 10 Flash Card
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=79986
http://i.imgur.com/W45DeVx.jpg

64GB is actually officially unsupported. 32GB is the maximum officially supported size.
If you have a 32GB or less microSD, it will be formatted to FAT32.
If you have a 64GB microSD, it will be formatted to exFAT.
Many others and I have no issues with the Kingston 64GB microSDXC Class 10. There may be other brands that work, but I stuck with Kingston because others have tried it.
64GB will get you about 8 hours of 1080p recording with HDR on and sound.
Class 4 and 6 would also work, just slower copying files from your microSD to your PC.


15ft USB A to mini-B 5pin 28/28AWG Cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030302&p_id=3898&seq=1&format=2
http://i.imgur.com/2Acm4RX.jpg

Standard USB cable. It's the same cable used for PS3 controllers and many other devices.
I provided this cable for Lockdown Security to install. It's too long, but it's tucked away. I think a 10ft cable will do.


OTG USB Cable for Nexus 4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-Host-OTG-Cable-With-USB-power-For-i9100-S3-i9300-S4-i9500-N5100-N7100-/171044965475?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item27d3130c63
http://i.imgur.com/5LmdPow.jpg

For those with Android phones, you can plug a USB microSD reader to playback the video on your phone.
If your device supports USB OTG, then you don't need this cable. You will need a different cable, a micro USB OTG cable without power. It should have micro USB on one end and a USB on the other.
I have a Nexus 4 and by design, it needs external power to be able to read the USB device. So this cable has 3 ends: USB, micro USB male and micro USB female.
First plug in your microSD USB reader and then plug the external power micro USB male end into the USB OTG micro USB female end. Finally plug the USB OTG micro USB male into your phone.
If everything works, you can use any file manager to view/play your files in /storage/usbdisk0.
Note: For Nexus 4 you will need to be rooted to install Ziddey's USB OTG Kernel.

Ziddey's USB OTG Kernel for Nexus 4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181820


MX Player (Pro)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.pro

This Android app will play the .MOV videos. I did run into an issue with no sound. To get sound working, I had to change the setting to S/W and then back to H/W in the app.
Video playback on my Nexus 4 looks amazing. The colors really pop out. It's way better than using the TV-Out cable.


aMCA Mobius AC
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=therau2000.amcamobiusac

This Android app is used to modify your camera's configuration without your PC. You will need the USB OTG cable.
I haven't used this app. I still couldn't get it to work. I have to play around with it a bit more since it's been updated.


ExtCam Mobius AC HD

This Android app isn't available yet. It's used to connect your camera to your phone and use it as a web camera or to aim you camera in the car.
There is a defect opened against the DSP chip manufacturer. It is unknown if and when this will be fixed.


AMCap
http://amcap.en.softonic.com/

I use this PC app to aim my camera with my laptop. I think you can use any web camera application.


Manual/Firmware
http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/index.html

There are updates every month or so for bug fixes and tweaks.
Updating is really easy. The software automatically checks for new versions. You plug your camera in, follow the easy instructions and it's updated in 30 seconds.
The developer works really hard and listens to people's feedback on the RCGroup forums. There's a pretty big community for this camera.


For more information
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904559


If you have any questions let me know!

[tmpz]

Some dash camera clips captured for your amusement:

Almost Rear End

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HldNxpwEtgk

Truck Left Turn Fail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxrDucDeIog

[trulankan]

wow, this is pretty sweet and looks top-notch. thanks for the detailed info!

[leungalv]

This is an awesome camera and according to dashtalk you can even change the lenses!! I'm looking to get one of these in the near future. tmpz ... Are you able to disclose how much Lockdown charged you for the install?

[tmpz]

This is an awesome camera and according to dashtalk you can even change the lenses!! I'm looking to get one of these in the near future. tmpz ... Are you able to disclose how much Lockdown charged you for the install?

It's $25 and was mentioned above. YMMV depending on the type of install.

[leungalv]

It's $25 and was mentioned above. YMMV depending on the type of install.

Sorry ... guess I screened past that hehehe

[tmpz]

I need to update my camera today. v0.39 to v0.44.


Firmware Revision History

See this link for latest FW and installation information:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25170908&postcount=3

v0.32 - release version
v0.34 - fixes 720p-60 fps bug (new compiler code caused 1080p AOV and frame doubled, not unique frames.
v0.35 - fixes an obscure bug that caused corrupted files when the audio was turned off.
v0.39 - fixes an obscure bug that prevented the time lapse images from being saved in a new folder when the last file name number reached 9999. The bug cause newly saved images to simply overwrite what was in file 9999. Also diminished obstruction of the image by video-out "card full" and "low battery" alerts.
v0.41 - fixes two bugs. One caused a random end-of-file termination irregularity that caused some files to end with an error message in WMP, and it also prevented the latest WMM from pre-processing the file so it could be edited. The second bug caused recording to stop rather than continue on from the internal battery when any external power source was removed. That function is now only active when the Auto Power On function is turned ON (for car recorder use, etc.).
v0.42 - fixes a bug that would delete the entire xxxHDDVR folder (located in the DCIM folder where the camera writes all of its video and photo files ) if the folder contained files which were ALL renamed to any name that did not match the standard name format the camera uses when it writes the files... i.e. "REC_xxxx.MOV" for video and "IMAGxxxx.JPG" for photos.
v0.44 - Adds further WB stabilization tweaks. Time lapse photo improvements increase detail and eliminate color banding at the lower delay settings. ALL photo frame sizes can now shoot with delays down to .25 sec. with good quality, though the time stamp will not be displayed at settings of 1 sec. or less.

[Chrisinski]

http://www.carcameradirect.com/?no1selling-car%20video%20recorder

Im looking into this atm.

[eqlso]

How does the continuous loop work? Does it just keep making 5 min videos and overwrite the oldest file?

[tmpz]

How does the continuous loop work? Does it just keep making 5 min videos and overwrite the oldest file?

It creates REC_001.MOV, then REC_002.MOV and etc until the memory card gets full. Then it deletes the oldest file and the file numbering keeps going up.

I'm not sure why you can only have 5 minute or less clips when you enable continuous loop.

[tmpz]

http://www.carcameradirect.com/?no1selling-car%20video%20recorder

Im looking into this atm.

Those style cameras are clones/copies of "DVR-027" or "DVR-XXX" where XXX are some numbers/newer revision. They all look the same, but the insides are different. Some have missing features and some only do 720p. It's really hit or miss.
Those were the "first" generation dash cameras. I don't think these stand up against Toronto's heat.

If you want a screen and something similar to the Mobius camera with a screen, check out SJ1000:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QppW_0_DuiE

Honestly, I think the Mobius is the best camera at the $100 or less price range.

[leungalv]

Those style cameras are clones/copies of "DVR-027" or "DVR-XXX" where XXX are some numbers/newer revision. They all look the same, but the insides are different. Some have missing features and some only do 720p. It's really hit or miss.
Those were the "first" generation dash cameras. I don't think these stand up against Toronto's heat.

If you want a screen and something similar to the Mobius camera with a screen, check out SJ1000:
*SNIP*

Honestly, I think the Mobius is the best camera at the $100 or less price range.

I like that the SJ1000 has a waterproof case ... makes me want to see if I can mount it behind the grill hmmmmm

[eqlso]

It creates REC_001.MOV, then REC_002.MOV and etc until the memory card gets full. Then it deletes the oldest file and the file numbering keeps going up.

I'm not sure why you can only have 5 minute or less clips when you enable continuous loop.

That makes sense. Thanks for the review. Definitely consider picking up one of these now.

[leungalv]

tmpz ... have you had any of the overheating issues mentioned in the rc forum threads?

[tmpz]

tmpz ... have you had any of the overheating issues mentioned in the rc forum threads?

I haven't had any overheating issues. I do leave it in the car all day outside.

[leungalv]

I haven't had any overheating issues. I do leave it in the car all day outside.

ok thanks :) I'm reading more and more about this heat issue. My camera should be here shortly!! I'm so excited :D:D

[leungalv]

I assume if I have TV-Out Cable I would use a female A to male A USB cable rather than USB A to mini-B 5pin?

[tmpz]

I assume if I have TV-Out Cable I would use a female A to male A USB cable rather than USB A to mini-B 5pin?

I'm a bit confused of what you're trying to do.

The TV-Out Cable is connected via Mini-B to the Mobius. On the other end there are 3 connectors for Video, Audio and USB A. You connect the USB A to any power source or computer.

[leungalv]

I'm a bit confused of what you're trying to do.

The TV-Out Cable is connected via Mini-B to the Mobius. On the other end there are 3 connectors for Video, Audio and USB A. You connect the USB A to any power source or computer.

Right, but the USB A coming out of the splitter is a male USB A (and it's not long enough to reach any power source) ... so I'd gather I need a USB A female going to a USB A male output, yes?

[tmpz]

Right, but the USB A coming out of the splitter is a male USB A ... so I'd need a USB A female going to a USB A male output, yes?

Are you trying to extend the cable? If so, then yes you need USB A female and USB A male output:
http://images.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/54321.jpg

[leungalv]

Are you trying to extend the cable? If so, then yes you need USB A female and USB A male output:
http://images.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/54321.jpg

Awesome thanks :):)

[trulankan]

ordered mine and patiently waiting for it to come...it would be awesome if i got here before HFH but its unlikely...im gonna try and mount my digi-cam on the dash for that

[leungalv]

Just took it out for a test drive and everything is great. Right now I have it mounted using painters tape till I figure out exactly where i want it mounted. Thanks to tmpz for your help and patience :)

I also used this video to figure out how to hide the wires: http://youtu.be/8BLh5sqNeco

Hope that helps someone too.

[leungalv]

ordered mine and patiently waiting for it to come...it would be awesome if i got here before HFH but its unlikely...im gonna try and mount my digi-cam on the dash for that

got my fingers crossed for you ;-) I ordered mine on August 28 and got it September 6.

[tmpz]

got my fingers crossed for you ;-) I ordered mine on August 28 and got it September 6.

Wow that's some fast shipping. Which buyer did you go with?

[trulankan]

Wow that's some fast shipping. Which buyer did you go with?

+1 that cant be from hong kong or is it?? i order mine on Sept 2. the expected arrival is week of September 23rd :(

[leungalv]

Wow that's some fast shipping. Which buyer did you go with?

For the dashcam and mount, I went with digitalele889: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221259368601?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
For the OTG cable, I went with easy2bay_istore: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171044965475?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cig charger, got from eletoponline365: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180942478506?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

All from HK or China ... guess I lucked out.

[trulankan]

For the dashcam and mount, I went with digitalele889: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221259368601?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
For the OTG cable, I went with easy2bay_istore: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171044965475?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Cig charger, got from eletoponline365: http://www.ebay.com/itm/180942478506?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

All from HK or China ... guess I lucked out.

wow i guess there is hope after all :)

[leungalv]

Hmmmm ... I have an interesting problem ... AMCap recognizes the camera, but only shows a black screen ...

[tmpz]

Hmmmm ... I have an interesting problem ... AMCap recognizes the camera, but only shows a black screen ...

Is it set to the Mobius camera? It could be set to your webcam or do you have the lens cap on?

[leungalv]

Is it set to the Mobius camera? It could be set to your webcam or do you have the lens cap on?

hahaha naaahh didn't have the lens cap on, and ya it is set to the Mobius camera. When I move my hand in front of it, it sees it then freezes.

[leungalv]

Here's a short clip of night driving in the rain with no street lights, no traffic lights in Detroit, MI yesterday:


http://youtu.be/hp3Ia_P29RY

Have firmware 0.45.

[tmpz]

I've been getting a bunch of questions (I'll also answer here):

Is there any overheating issues?
I haven't experiencing any overheating issues. I have my dashcam in my 24/7 and during the those hot 25-30C days.
The only problem I had was that the battery fully discharged and lost the timestamp only once. I recharged it inside my house and it was fine since then.
According the RCGroups forum, they said heat will kill the battery especially when there's no moving air inside the car. I do think the battery will eventually die from the heat. But the dash camera can still function without the battery (just no more timestamp). Also there should be replacement batteries available from the official sellers.

On the raw capture files, can you read any license plate at night?
For night time, I could only read the license plates in front within 1 car space and possibly where I'm in another car's blind spot. If I'm too close to the car in front, the light/glare from my headlights blocks out the license plate. If I'm stationary like at a red light or going slow ~20km/h, I can read most plates, but when I'm moving it's harder to see the plates.

No wide angle lens, no thanks!
There is a new wide angle lens available very soon:
http://forum.dashcamtalk.com/index.p...ard-lens.2580/

[trulankan]

hey man, was nice chatting with ya at the HFH pre-meet. so i got the dash cam on Monday lol now i just gotta get an SD card and the usb cable to get it installed. are you sure Lockdown can install this for $25?

[trulankan]

Here's a short clip of night driving in the rain with no street lights, no traffic lights in Detroit, MI yesterday:


http://youtu.be/hp3Ia_P29RY

Have firmware 0.45.

thats some good quality for low-light. did u have to update the firmware?

[tmpz]

hey man, was nice chatting with ya at the HFH pre-meet. so i got the dash cam on Monday lol now i just gotta get an SD card and the usb cable to get it installed. are you sure Lockdown can install this for $25?

Yes I think. Just call or email Lockdown.

The Kingston 64GB Class 10 MicroSD is on sale for $49.99:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=79986&vpn=SDCX10%2F64GB&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1377

I got mine when it was $55.99 :(

Btw the latest firmware is 0.47.

[leungalv]

thats some good quality for low-light. did u have to update the firmware?

I did have to update the firmware to 0.45 when I got the camera.

I do have an interesting issue too. I'm using the Mobius Universal USB harness and have it wired to my Eonon D5102 HU ... when I turn the car on, it no longer turns the camera on, just charges it. I have to turn the power on myself ... not sure why. On the rcgroups forum it says it doesn't "automatically power off" ... but makes no mention of powering on ... hrm

[tmpz]

Do you have:

Loop Recording: On
Cycle Time: 5mins
Power On: Fast
Auto Record: On

Try setting Charge from USB Host On and Off.

Also try it without plugging into the head unit to see if it auto powers on.

Otherwise it could be a bug and try posting at Rcgroup and see if they will fix it.

[Lockdown]

Hey Guys. yes we still do installs of dash cams for $25 - $35, for a basic Mobius install $25 would apply.

Call us at 647-439-4485 or email us at info@lockdownsecurity.ca

[trulankan]

so i got the dash-cam installed today at lockdown and Jeff did a great job and even fixed my broken fuse for me :) one issue so far tho, the video seems to be flipped, is there anyway to flip it around? there doesnt seem to be any menu system :/

nvm found info here: http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/index.html

[tmpz]

I just ordered a wide angle lens for $12.99 USD from the same eBay seller. There is no eBay listing. You have to message the seller and they will generate a PayPal invoice for you.

I will do another review with the new lens once I get it.

[eqlso]

Do you know why I can't set the video length > 5 mins? Is it dependent on the size of my sd card? The other values are greyed out.

[tmpz]

Do you know why I can't set the video length > 5 mins? Is it dependent on the size of my sd card? The other values are greyed out.

Unfortunately, if you have loop recording, the max limit per clip is 5 mins. If you turn off loop recording, then you can select 10 mins, 15 mins or Max.

[trulankan]

another point of interest is with a 32gb microsd I can get about 4hrs of video at 1080p and probably at least 6hrs at 720p (haven't tried it yet). i'm really liking it so far in the 3 weeks I've had it. Since i don't drive my car daily anymore I usually take the camera out on weekdays. i've notices it does get hot as others point out tho. It would be nice if it had a built in menu system but using the app on my phone to configure it isn't very difficult to do, although it might be on the fly.

I would give it an 9/10 overall. Points deducted for lack of GPS and no built-in menu but its amazing in all other areas including the great price!

[Kiewan]

I'm curious if it records audio as well. If so is there any way to turn that off?

[tmpz]

I'm curious if it records audio as well. If so is there any way to turn that off?

Yes it records audio. You can turn it off using the mSetup tool for configuration.

[Kiewan]

Yes it records audio. You can turn it off using the mSetup tool for configuration.

Thanks. Doing my initial homework on compatible cameras.
Kieran

[Slade]

Got my kit today :)

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k512/jblaggy/IMG-20131226-00389_zpsb3ae226c.jpg (http://s1113.photobucket.com/user/jblaggy/media/IMG-20131226-00389_zpsb3ae226c.jpg.html)

Now to actually do some reading and play with it then set it up.

[Slade]

Been using mine since I got it and so far I am a happy camper.

I wanted to also use this for snowmobiling and what not, and there is now a waterproof case being produced.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2072785

[ryan2.3]

will it still record and run like normal if you keep an android device in it at all times?

I've got one more USB port to my Dash tablet, so i was thinking of keeping it hooked up to it at all times. This way, as the 5min videos record, they'd automatically go to my dropbox on my desktop and i can clear them out as needed.

[tmpz]

will it still record and run like normal if you keep an android device in it at all times?

I've got one more USB port to my Dash tablet, so i was thinking of keeping it hooked up to it at all times. This way, as the 5min videos record, they'd automatically go to my dropbox on my desktop and i can clear them out as needed.

I don't think you can:



You cannot record video or photos if the camera is connected to the PC as an
external drive.


http://www.mytempfiles.info/mobius/MobiusManual.pdf‎

[mystix]

I ordered one of these last week, can't wait to receive mine. I emailed audio haven and their install for dash cam has increased to $40. How hard was it to hide the cable into the pillars?

[tmpz]

I ordered one of these last week, can't wait to receive mine. I emailed audio haven and their install for dash cam has increased to $40. How hard was it to hide the cable into the pillars?

I'm not sure. I think you can pop out the pillar and headliner to tuck the wire in. I didn't want to deal with it because of the side airbags.

Also, I'm going to order the Super Capacitor and replace the battery. This should keep the clock going for a few days and takes very little time to charge.

It should be good for leaving the camera in the car for hot summer days.

[r4mi5awi]

I ordered one of these last week, can't wait to receive mine. I emailed audio haven and their install for dash cam has increased to $40. How hard was it to hide the cable into the pillars?

Pretty easy. Give the wires and feed them through the headliner, a pillars and rubber door seals with a credit card. Keep feeding until you reach the cabin fuse box. The panel has some give and will take a cable coming in from the side. No need to remove anything.

As a tip, don't remove the twist wires that come with the long cable. Use only what you need for length. Get tiny zip ties for other accessory wires like a power manager, etc. This will help keep things tidy.

[tmpz]

My super capacitors came in this week and I installed them on both cameras. The installation is very simple, open the camera, unplug the battery, rip the battery out (stuck together by double sided tape), plug in the super capacitor, apply the supplied double sided tape and close it all up. Just be careful, one of the connectors on my camera seemed very loose.

You will need to change a setting so that the camera shuts off once power is removed. If don't do this, the last recording will not be save! It says so in the tooltip in mSetup.

So far so good!

[Slade]

I was able to hide my wires in 15mins , I did my install on my lunch at work, that is in my truck mind you.

I was going to do the super cap but I plan on putting this in behind the glovebox and having it wired to a ignition source.

http://www.amazon.ca/Waterproof-Motorcycle-HandleBar-Cellphone-Charger/dp/B00E4HYEOS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395944687&sr=8-1&keywords=waterproof+usb

I'm thinking of getting a 2nd one to face the back now that I have been rearended.

I also plan on ordering the waterproof case so I can use it as a GoPro more or less.

[leungalv]

My super capacitors came in this week and I installed them on both cameras. The installation is very simple, open the camera, unplug the battery, rip the battery out (stuck together by double sided tape), plug in the super capacitor, apply the supplied double sided tape and close it all up. Just be careful, one of the connectors on my camera seemed very loose.

You will need to change a setting so that the camera shuts off once power is removed. If don't do this, the last recording will not be save! It says so in the tooltip in mSetup.

So far so good!

AAAAHHHHH I'm so excited, I ordered my supercap from banggood.com <insert perverted joke here> last week! I can't wait to install it. Let us know how it holds up :):)

[Slade]

Well I went to Home Depot to try and make myself some extensions so I could mount the camera to the back of the truck but still have it stick out enough to get a good side shot.
Well I made my extension , slapped it on to my drivers side mirror and went for a drive, everything was beauty, I was able to get a wider shot.

Then disaster haha, I moved the suction cup to the edge of my mirror but still fully on the mirror itself..coming along the South Service road in Burlington the suction cup let go and down goes my camera, thankfully not under my tire. It landed directly on the yellow line, and none of the 3 vehicles coming hit it, woohoo!

Grabbed it, hopped back into my truck and went to turn it on, lights still come on, bonus. Go to try and record, but it wont..hmm odd..wait a minute, the @%$%% memory card is not in it. I am guessing the force from it falling must have knocked the card out, and it being microSD its tiny as it is.

Went back and looked but there is no way I will be able to find it, no idea where it would have bounced out to, and if the wind got a hold of it then it could be down the QEW by know.

So if anyone finds a memory card along the south service road in Burlington, send me a pm haha.

[m_bisson]

Lol brutal!

I have the mini 0801. Video quality is great and it seems to work OK.

[leungalv]

tmpz ... where did you order your supercap from? I ordered mine from banggood.com on March 24 ... however, it has not arrived yet. Thanks.

[tmpz]

tmpz ... where did you order your supercap from? I ordered mine from banggood.com on March 24 ... however, it has not arrived yet. Thanks.

I got mine from the same eBay seller on the first post. They didn't have it posted on eBay. I sent them a message and they sent me an invoice. It was off record on eBay. I got mine in about a month.

$10 each I think

[leungalv]

I got mine from the same eBay seller on the first post. They didn't have it posted on eBay. I sent them a message and they sent me an invoice. It was off record on eBay. I got mine in about a month.

$10 each I think

ok thanks ... I will wait a few more days

[Mangtoos]

I just ordered one of these. I build and fly hobby aircraft with a gopro, so it'll be interesting to compare the two. I might order 3 more if it's decent.

The lens can just be screwed out, yes? Does anyone know the thread size? I have a bunch of lenses sitting around with different FOVs and it would be great it they fit.

[tmpz]

I just ordered one of these. I build and fly hobby aircraft with a gopro, so it'll be interesting to compare the two. I might order 3 more if it's decent.

The lens can just be screwed out, yes? Does anyone know the thread size? I have a bunch of lenses sitting around with different FOVs and it would be great it they fit.

I'm not sure what you mean by screwed out. There's 2 lenses, a standard and wide angle. They are connected by a ribbon cable. AFAIK, there are no other lenses that work.

[Mangtoos]

Most CCD/CMOS cameras have a lens that screws into a socket in front of the image sensor. Simular to an SLR Camera.

http://www.securitycamera2000.com/CCTV/PZ0420H/PZ0420H-7-FPV-Camera.jpg

[tmpz]

Most CCD/CMOS cameras have a lens that screws into a socket in front of the image sensor. Simular to an SLR Camera.

http://www.securitycamera2000.com/CCTV/PZ0420H/PZ0420H-7-FPV-Camera.jpg

Hmm I'm not sure, you can try asking at RCGroup forum or DashCamTalk forum.

[Noisy Crow]

Check out the mod techmoan did to his camera to turn it into a stealth car cam (google techmoan youtube)

Did it for you: http://youtu.be/9qx5fgy8f28

[Mangtoos]

Hmm I'm not sure, you can try asking at RCGroup forum or DashCamTalk forum.

Just did. Looks like the lens has a standard 12M x 0.5 thread, which means replacing/swapping them around is fairly cheap. Most excellent.

[tmpz]

Just did. Looks like the lens has a standard 12M x 0.5 thread, which means replacing/swapping them around is fairly cheap. Most excellent.

Cool, please post an update when you do the swap! :D

[tmpz]

I took my Mobius with the super capacitor to Miami and it survived the 30C+ heat, still going strong. I'm back in Toronto and the heatsink was pretty hot after parking out in the sun.

Super Capacitor is the way to go.

[eqlso]

I'm trying to install one of these in my 2016 CX-5 but ran into a little jam. I have two USB connectors near the front, and one cigarette lighter in the center arm rest console.

If I plug it in the USB connectors, the camera doesn't turn on by itself. I'm assuming it detects activity in the data line in the USB cable, so pretends its attached to a computer and doesn't turn on automatically. I think I need to find a charge only USB cable, with the data lines disconnected so it only charges. Or I think I can manually turn on the camera each time?

If I plug it in the cigarette lighter, the camera is always on. This is due to the cigarette lighter always receiving power, even with the engine off. To solve this, I would need a switched USB -> cigarette lighter adapter that I need to manually turn on and off.

Not sure which route to take, any ideas tmpz?

[tmpz]

I'm trying to install one of these in my 2016 CX-5 but ran into a little jam. I have two USB connectors near the front, and one cigarette lighter in the center arm rest console.

If I plug it in the USB connectors, the camera doesn't turn on by itself. I'm assuming it detects activity in the data line in the USB cable, so pretends its attached to a computer and doesn't turn on automatically. I think I need to find a charge only USB cable, with the data lines disconnected so it only charges. Or I think I can manually turn on the camera each time?

If I plug it in the cigarette lighter, the camera is always on. This is due to the cigarette lighter always receiving power, even with the engine off. To solve this, I would need a switched USB -> cigarette lighter adapter that I need to manually turn on and off.

Not sure which route to take, any ideas tmpz?

If you plug it into USB directly, try taping the 2 middle pins with electrical tape as a quick hack. The middle pins are for data. The outer pins are for power.
There might be an option to ignore data connection. I'll check my config when I get home tonight.

Do you have other cigarette lighters available? Usually not all are always on.

[Slade]

The möbius detects if it's PC or not that's why it's doing so, you would need a switched plug correct.

My 2nd möbius should be here next week , over a year with mine so far and no problems.

[eqlso]

I'll try the tape trick tonight. I can only see two cigarette lighters available, one in the center arm rest and one in the trunk, and both are always on.

[tmpz]

I'll try the tape trick tonight. I can only see two cigarette lighters available, one in the center arm rest and one in the trunk, and both are always on.

http://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Condom/

[eqlso]

Ok that seems easier and cheaper than getting something like this: http://syncstop.com/.

[eqlso]

Thanks tmpz. Tape worked fine. I connected it to the USB port and its charging fine now.