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JrCanuck
02-20-2014, 09:15 AM
So I blew a couple of connecting rods a few weeks back, and i've got the motor ready to come out.
Now, my question is this;
Is it easier to pull the engine with a picker through the top, or do I need to drop trans, axle, and the rest of the front frame components?
Also
Assuming that an automatic 2.3L block will bolt up the same to the trans. If you know otherwise, please let me know.
I already have the rebar and rad off, and out of the way, so if I could just drop it without using a picker (buying one) then i'd prefer that.
Any input is appreciated here.
Cheers
schmat66
02-20-2014, 10:08 AM
So I blew a couple of connecting rods a few weeks back, and i've got the motor ready to come out.
Now, my question is this;
Is it easier to pull the engine with a picker through the top, or do I need to drop trans, axle, and the rest of the front frame components?
Also
Assuming that an automatic 2.3L block will bolt up the same to the trans. If you know otherwise, please let me know.
I already have the rebar and rad off, and out of the way, so if I could just drop it without using a picker (buying one) then i'd prefer that.
Any input is appreciated here.
Cheers
RACE CAR DRIVER LOL 99% sure block to block will work doesn't matter on tranny
cwp_sedan
02-20-2014, 11:25 AM
I assume you are doing this? If you are asking the question you surely haven't done enough homework to do this yourself.
I would hate for you to get half way through and have problems.
greyseason
02-20-2014, 12:48 PM
I believe its easier to drop the axel and lift the car up. I was talking to a mazda mechanic when he was replacing a cx7 motor. They undo all the bolts, and just lift the car up on the hoist. Now im assuming you dont have a hoist? could be tricky
Nikhil Pali
02-20-2014, 02:08 PM
You can drop the engine from bottom and use engine picker to lift the front end 3-4 ft. But wouldn't be easier to pull the engine from the front as you already have rebar and rad removed with the picker. Both auto and manual trans will bolt to the same engine.
The Wolf
02-20-2014, 02:35 PM
You should ask Reddie1337, he's done it a few times (gen2 I think though). I think they just remove everything in front of the engine and pull it out the front.
Reddie1337
02-20-2014, 02:46 PM
You should ask Reddie1337, he's done it a few times (gen2 I think though). I think they just remove everything in front of the engine and pull it out the front.
Funny enough, I'm doing one tomorrow. I will be taking the front end off, and removing the engine and transmission together. If you are going automatic to manual you will have to remove a little bearing from the end of the crankshaft. If you are going manual to automatic engine, you will have to buy the bearing and put it in. I am working on a 2007 2.3 5spd that is having an automatic engine put onto the manual transmission. The only issues are the wiring harness, and that bearing in the crank shaft. Pm me if you have any other questions.
JrCanuck
02-20-2014, 05:52 PM
Funny enough, I'm doing one tomorrow. I will be taking the front end off, and removing the engine and transmission together. If you are going automatic to manual you will have to remove a little bearing from the end of the crankshaft. If you are going manual to automatic engine, you will have to buy the bearing and put it in. I am working on a 2007 2.3 5spd that is having an automatic engine put onto the manual transmission. The only issues are the wiring harness, and that bearing in the crank shaft. Pm me if you have any other questions.
Perfect, thanks Reddie. Just wanted to make sure as I never got a full answer during searches as to whether or not the auto would work on a standard tranny.
Reddie1337
02-20-2014, 08:04 PM
Perfect, thanks Reddie. Just wanted to make sure as I never got a full answer during searches as to whether or not the auto would work on a standard tranny.
I switched a 2010 2.5L standard engine into my 2012 2.5L auto just before christmas. Just had to remove that bearing, and it was fine. I assume you're going Auto to standard, which means you need that bearing inside the crank, I would talk to your local dealer tomorrow about it, before you start attaching things. I know if you leave it in there, the torque converter will not seat properly and there will be too much pressure, not sure if you were to leave it out when doing manual, haven't tried to put one together without installing that in the crank.
greyseason
02-20-2014, 08:09 PM
I switched a 2010 2.5L standard engine into my 2012 2.5L auto just before christmas. Just had to remove that bearing, and it was fine. I assume you're going Auto to standard, which means you need that bearing inside the crank, I would talk to your local dealer tomorrow about it, before you start attaching things. I know if you leave it in there, the torque converter will not seat properly and there will be too much pressure, not sure if you were to leave it out when doing manual, haven't tried to put one together without installing that in the crank.
i read that twice and am still confused
Manual tranny = need bearing
auto tranny = no bearing?
Reddie1337
02-20-2014, 10:18 PM
Auto tranny, torque converter goes in that slot, manual transmission, has a bearing.
JrCanuck
02-20-2014, 10:25 PM
I switched a 2010 2.5L standard engine into my 2012 2.5L auto just before christmas. Just had to remove that bearing, and it was fine. I assume you're going Auto to standard, which means you need that bearing inside the crank, I would talk to your local dealer tomorrow about it, before you start attaching things. I know if you leave it in there, the torque converter will not seat properly and there will be too much pressure, not sure if you were to leave it out when doing manual, haven't tried to put one together without installing that in the crank.
Just to clarify, I'm going from a manual block, to an auto block, with a 5 speed transmission.
Depending on the shape of the crank, I may be reusing it. I'm going to pull the blown block out of the car as soon as the weather gets a little friendlier, and start a tear down / rebuild on the block that schmat66 so kindly gave to me.
JrCanuck
02-22-2014, 06:27 PM
Update: Engine came out no problems. Easy enough to do once popping the axles out. Tranny and Engine now in the garage, ready to be torn down. Will continue to update on this thread.
schmat66
02-23-2014, 12:37 AM
pffffft told ya so
m_bisson
02-25-2014, 12:44 PM
Are you taking pics along the way? :)
schmat66
02-25-2014, 05:42 PM
oh yes... follow his instagram @thatthree18
actually post on here jamie
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