View Full Version : Kijiji Scammer. I can't believe this people.
Astig02
06-11-2014, 02:29 AM
Post an AD in Kijiji and got a text from potential buyer. Asked for my final price (Full amount) and buyer agreed.
Then the "sketchy" part.
He will pay through Paypal. Buyer asked for my full name and Paypal Address. Asked me to send item via Canada Post Express to "a friend of his" since he is on a "training camp."
Buyer Friend info:
Reciever: Robert Stephen
Address: No. 33 Durojaye Street Off Lawanson Itire, Surulere, Lagos
Sounds like as SCAM to me.
Clues:
-Buyer did not even negotiate a better price. Price offered is too good to be true. You know what they say.
-Have not even seen the item. Who does that ( at least in kijiji).
-Shipping to a friend overseas? yeah, right.
-Payment claimed to be through Paypal (hmmm).
-Sketchy Address.
I stopped responding and start Googling. Oh the power of the Internet. Found a couple of hits.
https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Selling-on-eBay/Fraud-in-*****ia/td-p/451797/page/3
I can't believe these people.
Captain Mazda
06-11-2014, 02:51 AM
I had about five of those texting per day back when I was selling my old phone. My favourite was the one who wanted it as a "friendship gift for my pastor's daughter". All of them got a mocking reply and a prompt block.
Cab0oze
06-11-2014, 06:36 AM
Lol it sounds like a scam to you? That is a scam. There are tons of scammers on kijiji, and are very easy to spot. Kijiji is for local sales. There are two occasions when I have bought from people out of province, but I paid in advance and made sure the person was legit. It is NOT for international sales. Nobody overseas should be looking to buy things on kijiji. If you have the money in your pocket in advance then fine, but that never ever happens. What the scammers often will do is sound serious and then spin some kind of crazy story how they mailed you the money already but they overpaid and need you to send THEM money. Honestly anyone who falls for that kind of stuff deserves to have their money taken from them. And I do know one person who fell for that.
jeffjones
06-11-2014, 08:27 AM
You are just learning about this now?
This scam has been around for years.
staax
06-11-2014, 08:44 AM
Why would you even consider PayPal as a method for Kijiji. It is a way to post LOCAL ads, so take cash only or even a certified check.
Scam, scam, scam.
peterm15
06-11-2014, 10:21 AM
Why would you even consider PayPal as a method for Kijiji. It is a way to post LOCAL ads, so take cash only or even a certified check.
Scam, scam, scam.
You mean it's a bad ides to accpet trades for goats and other livestock?
rukus
06-11-2014, 10:23 AM
look through auto trader for motorcycles. this scam is incredibly common
Shinglez
06-11-2014, 10:32 AM
I remember my first Kijiji post.
Carry on
geobur
06-11-2014, 10:48 AM
You mean it's a bad ides to accpet trades for goats and other livestock?
I would say no...but it really depends what your intentions are with the goats once you get them? :P
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silverstarmazda
06-11-2014, 10:51 AM
dem *****ian princes be struggling"
edit^ totally understand why its censored lol but you get the point
staax
06-11-2014, 11:27 AM
You mean it's a bad ides to accpet trades for goats and other livestock?
Well if thats your thing and you those cold, hard, err.. goats in your hands then go for it :)
ryan2.3
06-11-2014, 11:34 AM
Why would you even consider PayPal as a method for Kijiji. It is a way to post LOCAL ads, so take cash only or even a certified check.
Scam, scam, scam.
why wouldn't you consider online payment as a method. I've sold a couple things that people weren't comfortable bringing that amount of cash to, especially if they decided they didn't want to. I told them send me an interac email transfer, we'll meet, if you want it, give me the password to accept. Once i had the money and it went through, they left.
Some people don't want to walk around with thousands in their pocket. I bought a phone once on kijiji, and i didn't care for the area, so i said to meet at a plaza that had one of my banks atm's. Once i decided i wanted the phone i pulled out the money.
staax
06-11-2014, 11:38 AM
why wouldn't you consider online payment as a method. I've sold a couple things that people weren't comfortable bringing that amount of cash to, especially if they decided they didn't want to. I told them send me an interac email transfer, we'll meet, if you want it, give me the password to accept. Once i had the money and it went through, they left.
Some people don't want to walk around with thousands in their pocket. I bought a phone once on kijiji, and i didn't care for the area, so i said to meet at a plaza that had one of my banks atm's. Once i decided i wanted the phone i pulled out the money.
A direct transfer I would consider for sure, I just don't like third parties like PayPal. Personal preference - most things on Kijiji with the exception of vehicles are paid with cash anyway.
I've sold and bought a number of cars, some with cash, other as certified cheques.
I agree that a lot of people don't like to carry significant amount of cash on them which is why I always suggest accompanying them to their bank where I can witness withdraw the money from their account, and then sign over the registration (or give them whatever I'm selling).
May be a slight convenience for some people but it's peace of mind knowing you're not getting fudged over - normally makes the other person feel better too.
ryan2.3
06-11-2014, 11:56 AM
I try to make them feel as comfortable as I can. Usually meet at timmies or something.
I was selling a laptop downtown and while I was waiting in an empty parking lot, the girl called asking me to describe what I was wearing and my car. Then seconds later she popped out from a corner. Super tiny and timid, guess she was paranoid. As soon as she saw I brought the baby she relaxed right up
silverstarmazda
06-11-2014, 12:03 PM
i always make sure the buyer checks everything before i leave just in case they got any problems/questions.
thanu31
06-11-2014, 12:12 PM
lol
the phone number they use should tell you right off the bat.
and the way they talk.. its just not normal
Kiewan
06-11-2014, 01:39 PM
i always make sure the buyer checks everything before i leave just in case they got any problems/questions.
You are too honest. Mean that in a good way, kijiji sales can be sketchy
I bought a phone off a guy in highschool with the wrong IMEI code and was screwed out of my savings. Lesson learned.
My sales/purchases are always cash only in a public place with demos if necessary.
Cab0oze
06-11-2014, 02:39 PM
Why would you even consider PayPal as a method for Kijiji. It is a way to post LOCAL ads, so take cash only or even a certified check.
Scam, scam, scam.
I bought a 800$ gift certificate for 200$ for a local race track from someone 300km away on kijiji in addition to buying a Forge BPV from someone in BC, both were paid for with paypal. So... not ALWAYS a scam, but it is pretty obvious when it is... like in this case (unless he really does pay you up front, including shipping with tracking numbers, etc but my guess is he won't)
You are too honest. Mean that in a good way, kijiji sales can be sketchy
I bought a phone off a guy in highschool with the wrong IMEI code and was screwed out of my savings. Lesson learned.
My sales/purchases are always cash only in a public place with demos if necessary.
Also gotta watch out for fake cash.
EMT is the safest if you're the seller.
geobur
06-11-2014, 03:25 PM
A direct transfer I would consider for sure, I just don't like third parties like PayPal. Personal preference - most things on Kijiji with the exception of vehicles are paid with cash anyway.
I've sold and bought a number of cars, some with cash, other as certified cheques.
I agree that a lot of people don't like to carry significant amount of cash on them which is why I always suggest accompanying them to their bank where I can witness withdraw the money from their account, and then sign over the registration (or give them whatever I'm selling).
May be a slight convenience for some people but it's peace of mind knowing you're not getting fudged over - normally makes the other person feel better too.
paypal is one of the most secure ways to send money over the internet. You have a 3rd party to back on who makes sure both parties are happy. You can file disputes with paypal, you can't if you give the guy cash and he screws you.
paypal is one of the most secure ways to send money over the internet. You have a 3rd party to back on who makes sure both parties are happy. You can file disputes with paypal, you can't if you give the guy cash and he screws you.
Paypal is not safe if you're the seller. The "buyer" could be using stolen accounts/credit cards and the transaction could be reversed later after sending the goods.
geobur
06-11-2014, 03:40 PM
Paypal is not safe if you're the seller. The "buyer" could be using stolen accounts/credit cards and the transaction could be reversed later after sending the goods.
I don't believe that it is as easy as you think...Paypal investigates, and works on cases on a case by case basis. They try to protect both parties
staax
06-11-2014, 03:46 PM
paypal is one of the most secure ways to send money over the internet. You have a 3rd party to back on who makes sure both parties are happy. You can file disputes with paypal, you can't if you give the guy cash and he screws you.
I would have to respectfully disagree with you, and tpmz nailed it on the head.
I would use PayPal with a reputable business, but I would not use it when dealing with another individual.
I also believe its much easier to do a good old cash transaction or certified cheque (knowing its legit).
My girlfriend was once selling a POS Intrepid, in where she received a reply similar to this but only the guy was purchasing it for his family vacation (who purchases a vehicle for a vacation? That's what rental places are for). He was also on an oil rig and that there was no cell reception. He concluded by saying to use PayPal, and if that she did not have an account, that PayPal was a safe and quick method to do the transaction. Even included instructions on how to make a PayPal account LOL.
I'm not trying to say PayPal is a bad option, but you'll never catch me using it for these reasons :)
fywdyl
06-11-2014, 04:28 PM
dem *****ian princes be struggling"
edit^ totally understand why its censored lol but you get the point
It wouldn't have been censored if you had spelled it right.
silverstarmazda
06-11-2014, 08:32 PM
It wouldn't have been censored if you had spelled it right.
nope, still censors it out no matter how you spell it :/ unless im honestly spelling it wrong
What the hell are you trying to spell?
Thought you were trying to spell pu $$yian which I didn't understand
Cab0oze
06-11-2014, 10:33 PM
It wouldn't have been censored if you had spelled it right.
No, he spelled it right. Apparently someone here thinks that this African country's name needs to be censored because it is inappropriate. If that isn't racism, I don't know what is...
Astig02
06-11-2014, 11:15 PM
I had one similar experience before through eBay. But I did not expect it from kijiji ( i was only thinking locally). Red flags were there so i did my due diligence. It is just sad that people do these dirty tricks.
I was selling a lightly used watch ( a month old) for some cash. Needed the money for something.
The Wolf
06-12-2014, 06:57 AM
Okay, I'll bite.
How is this a scam if you accept the money before sending the item?
Okay, I'll bite.
How is this a scam if you accept the money before sending the item?
Because with PayPal, it's reversible. You can open a dispute like my account was stolen, the item was not as described, etc. PayPal will favor the buyer and reverse the transaction. If you pull all your money out before the reversal then you go into negative balance and got lucky. But if you have a bank account tied to PayPal, then you're out of luck and take the loss.
Email money transfers are not reversible. It's the best for the seller. A ton of risk for the buyer.
The Wolf
06-12-2014, 08:35 AM
Because with PayPal, it's reversible. You can open a dispute like my account was stolen, the item was not as described, etc. PayPal will favor the buyer and reverse the transaction. If you pull all your money out before the reversal then you go into negative balance and got lucky. But if you have a bank account tied to PayPal, then you're out of luck and take the loss.
Email money transfers are not reversible. It's the best for the seller. A ton of risk for the buyer.
ah, gotcha. never used PayPal for a private transaction so I didn't know.
evildiesel
06-12-2014, 08:51 AM
i paypal my stuff if its online like ebay. i order all my parts and stuff off ebay cause its cheaper.. and paypal is the safest way in my eye
fywdyl
06-12-2014, 10:33 AM
nope, still censors it out no matter how you spell it :/ unless im honestly spelling it wrong
No, he spelled it right. Apparently someone here thinks that this African country's name needs to be censored because it is inappropriate. If that isn't racism, I don't know what is...
My apologies, I counted 6*s instead of 5. Carry on.
OP, ask the buyer to EMT the funds to you, see what he/she says.
jeffjones
06-12-2014, 10:44 AM
paypal is one of the most secure ways to send money over the internet. You have a 3rd party to back on who makes sure both parties are happy. You can file disputes with paypal, you can't if you give the guy cash and he screws you.
Paypal will investigate by asking the seller if the item was shipped, which you respond yes, they ask for the tracking number and you give them your phony one that was given to you with no record of it and paypal will cancel the payment to you and refund the buyer........ Doesn't seem so secure to me when being used in a scam.
Hence why these people provide their own shipping arrangements.
ryan2.3
06-12-2014, 11:20 AM
i don't understand your response. you give an example showing that if an item is sent with a bad tracking then they'll cancel the payment and refund the buyer, then you say it doesn't seem secure. How wouldn't that be secure? Not baiting, just curious in case i missed something.
Way i see it, if a bogus tracking was used they could cancel the payment and refund you so you don't lost money and don't receive an item.
On the other end, as a seller, if he were to receive the money, then ship the item and then these guys tried to file a dispute saying it never arrived in an attempt to scam him and pull the funding, he can provide tracking showing it arrived, and paypal wouldn't reverse the payment since there's record it arrived.
I've filed disputes with paypal before with nothing arriving and seller not replying to messages. Normally takes a few days but i always got a refund.
I'm not saying this Kijiji guy isn't a scammer, I'm just saying there's protection in place for both parties. I prefer interac transfers, but i've never had trouble with paypal, so i'll keep using them when it makes sense to.
My only complaint with paypal is i can't move money between my accounts without paying. I have a US bank account and Canadian, and i can't add them to the same paypal account. I called them and they said that if i want to add my US bank account, I have to make a new paypal account and just have 2. So if i want to send money back and forth i have to pay fees. So instead i just bring cash and convert it to pay bills in canada
Booostin
06-12-2014, 07:22 PM
some old broad on dr phil sent over 200,000 US to this scammer she met online... some people are so retarded
Default User
06-12-2014, 11:25 PM
Honestly - Accepting payments in Cash, PayPal, visa, MasterCard - they can all screw the seller.
Cash could be fake (I believe a member here sold items to a member and received some fake notes)
PayPal and credit card can all be reversed if buyer disputes.
On a side note - I refuse to do international purchases. I'll pay the extra and buy it locally. I also very rarely, buy things on-line. Maybe twice ever - and that's using VISA gift cards. I've had my debit card hacked from the passport office (a government building for ****s sakes) and my Visa card compromised twice. Since then - I've paid cash - in person - up close and personal.
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