EBC Caliper Lube

[r4BBiT]

So my car is at Mazda and they are saying that my rear calipers slider pins are seized solid. I replaced my rotors and pads last year and used EBC Caliper Lube on sliding pins, which looks like copper anti-seize, but they are saying that it's anti-seize and that's what caused them to seize. The pins themselves looked okay, but he tech said they should be moving easier so they want to hone the caliper hols :(

Did anyone use that stuff and is it okay to use on slider pins? It's just hard for me to believe that not even after one year the pins are seized if they were lubed up. Thoughts?

[Nick]

Honing is nothing, when my pins locked up the boots were swollen and the tunnels were corroded, grabbed a cylindrical wire brush threw it on my drill and bang, remove the boots first with a needle nose, use breathing protection, a set of boots with caps are less than $10 from mazda iirc, anti seize grips rubber, i only use it for metal on metal or for protection, ie threads, any brake lubricant will do

[don67]

Several reviewers on the Canadian Tire website (http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/permatex-caliper-lube-80-ml-0383794p.html#Reviews) blame one particular brand of caliper grease (Permatex) for causing the rubber sleeves to swell. Maybe that's what happened with the EBC product.

My only experience is with the aforementioned Permatex, on a couple of previous Hyundais. No problems there, although I was only using it on the slides... as long as the pins were operating smoothly I left them alone.

[Zuluwun]

I had the same concern r4bbit. Pretty sure I posted here about that years ago. I noticed that EBC directs you to put it on the pins but pretty much everyone else, including Jimmy said bad call lol. I went to him immediately after I put the brakes back together and he lubed the slider pins properly.

[Flagrum_3]

So my car is at Mazda and they are saying that my rear calipers slider pins are seized solid. I replaced my rotors and pads last year and used EBC Caliper Lube on sliding pins, which looks like copper anti-seize, but they are saying that it's anti-seize and that's what caused them to seize. The pins themselves looked okay, but he tech said they should be moving easier so they want to hone the caliper hols :(

Did anyone use that stuff and is it okay to use on slider pins? It's just hard for me to believe that not even after one year the pins are seized if they were lubed up. Thoughts?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with EBC Caliper lube, we use the same on our buses...(just consider what they go through each day/everyday). I'll bet it was due to the caps not being on properly or damaged, allowing alot of crap in and lube out...As mentioned honing can be done in minutes, just make sure they are sealed properly with new caps.

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[r4BBiT]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with EBC Caliper lube, we use the same on our buses...(just consider what they go through each day/everyday). I'll bet it was due to the caps not being on properly or damaged, allowing alot of crap in and lube out...As mentioned honing can be done in minutes, just make sure they are sealed properly with new caps.

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Thanks for the info...maybe that's what happened. Would tracking and not re-lubing pins after words contribute to that?

Apparently it was just rears, but Mazda honed it out.

[r4BBiT]

Thanks for the replies guys.

[Flagrum_3]

Thanks for the info...maybe that's what happened. Would tracking and not re-lubing pins after words contribute to that?

Apparently it was just rears, but Mazda honed it out.

Rears are subjected to alot more dirt and shite then the fronts, main reason they require more maintenance... Only way you would affect the calipers during tracking, is if you allow them to overheat excessively, which could possibly cause the slider-pins to stick. But the lube should withstand a couple of tracking days, as long as the boots/caps are in good shape...IMHO.

[r4BBiT]

Thanks Flagrum

[don67]

My comment apparently got lost in moderation, but if you check reviews for the Permatex brand of caliper grease on the Canadian Tire website several people complained that it swells the rubber pin covers contrary to manufacturer claims. I've been using Permatex for years without issue, but then again the pins on our previous Hyundais never required lubrication (just the pad tabs).

Maybe this is what happened with the EBC product...?

[S.F.W.]

My comment apparently got lost in moderation, but if you check reviews for the Permatex brand of caliper grease on the Canadian Tire website several people complained that it swells the rubber pin covers contrary to manufacturer claims. I've been using Permatex for years without issue, but then again the pins on our previous Hyundais never required lubrication (just the pad tabs).

Maybe this is what happened with the EBC product...?

sorry, found your post and approved it.

[SonicBoy]

A lot of shops use this (https://www.amazon.ca/AGS-BK4-Brake-Lubricant-4Oz/dp/B000CIHTPE). It's designed to not interfere with the rubber boots causing them to swell.

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[r4BBiT]

A lot of shops use this (https://www.amazon.ca/AGS-BK4-Brake-Lubricant-4Oz/dp/B000CIHTPE). It's designed to not interfere with the rubber boots causing them to swell.

http://agscompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/BK-4.png
Where can you get this one? CT or part source does not have it. NAPA?

[SonicBoy]

On my post click on the use this. It's a link to Amazon.ca. There's also a guy out in Scarborough that sells it. here's the link (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?requestSource=b&adId=444867013).

[r4BBiT]

On my post click on the use this. It's a link to Amazon.ca. There's also a guy out in Scarborough that sells it. here's the link (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details.html?requestSource=b&adId=444867013).
Thanks I need it for tomorrow as I'm doing her brakes. I managed to find some at NAPA on Lexington in Waterloo. It's not cheap though, $20 for the tube.

[rcmasterj]

So my car is at Mazda and they are saying that my rear calipers slider pins are seized solid. I replaced my rotors and pads last year and used EBC Caliper Lube on sliding pins, which looks like copper anti-seize, but they are saying that it's anti-seize and that's what caused them to seize. The pins themselves looked okay, but he tech said they should be moving easier so they want to hone the caliper hols :(

Did anyone use that stuff and is it okay to use on slider pins? It's just hard for me to believe that not even after one year the pins are seized if they were lubed up. Thoughts?
Never use anything but silicone based lubricant on any rubber parts in general, but specifically brakes. Anti-sieze will swell up the rubber causing your slider pins to sieze up or anything that is petroluem based. Anti-sieze is only for metal on metal.

There is lots of products out there that claim they are rubber safe and can be used on slider pins, but they are not. The product has to be pure silicone lubricant so it doesnt swell the rubber and always stay free. Usually its a clear / white color. I use Eze-Slide from Kleen Flow. Only select auto part stores carry it. I bought it from Ly auto parts in mississauga but most specialized auto stores should carry it. Costs about $12 for a tube. Or you can buy 3m stuff but costs alot more for a tub.

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[r4BBiT]

^^^ I'm aware of that and as you can see in my previous post I already got some lube. Thanks though ;)

[AwAfrican]

Where can you get this one? CT or part source does not have it. NAPA?
CT definitely has this....