HIDs are in! (+ pics) [Archive]

///M

02-04-2005, 07:33 PM

Got my 6000k Xtec installed today at Lockdown.

They are hooked up to a the parking lights that triggers a relay to turn them on (the method discussed by Chaser and MajesticBlueN in here (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=1341)). Special thanks to Chaser for the circuit diagram! Now I won\'t have to worry about blowing fuses. They used the H7 spacers included with the kit - with some modding they fit onto the lamps, thus eliminating the need for rubber grommets.

I also got independent fogs for DRLs. I was originally intending to use Oliver/M3GT\'s method, but Jeff from Lockdown suggested an alternative method (involving an additional wire and a diode) as Oliver\'s method would result in the fog lights being on for ~10-15 seconds after ignition is cut (this is also documented in the M3F thread regarding this matter). In my setup the fog lights come off with ignition immediately. Jeff really knows his stuff. :)

The only low point of the install was that one of the installers (Sam? not sure) decided to drill holes into the chassis for creating ground points without asking me - I would have much preferred to use the factory ground points than to have holes drilled :(. Anyone know what I can do to the drilled holes to prevent them from rusting?

All in all though, great service from Lockdown. They were able to do the install using exactly the method I wanted (drilling aside). I\'d recommend Jeff 100% - get him to do the install if possible.

MajesticBlueNTO

02-04-2005, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by autoexe

Got my 6000k Xtec installed today at Lockdown.

They are hooked up to a the parking lights that trigger a relay to turn them on (the method discussed by Chaser and MajesticBlueN in here (http://torontomazda3.com/forum/read.php?TID=1341)). Special thanks to Chaser for the circuit diagram! Now I won\'t have to worry about blowing fuses.

I also got independent fogs for DRLs. I was originally intending to use Oliver/M3GT\'s method, but Jeff from Lockdown suggested an alternative method (involving an additional wire and a diode) as Oliver\'s method would result in the fog lights being on for ~10-15 seconds after ignition is cut (this is also documented in the M3F thread regarding this matter). In my setup the fog lights come off with ignition immediately. Jeff really knows his stuff. :)

The only low point of the install was that one of the installers (Sam? not sure) decided to drill holes into the chassis for creating ground points asking me - I would have much preferred to use the factory ground points than to have holes drilled :(. Anyone know what I can do to the drilled holes to prevent them from rusting?

All in all though, great service from Lockdown. They were able to do the install using exactly the method I wanted (drilling aside). I\'d recommend Jeff 100% - get him to do the install if possible.

congrats and welcome to the HID club ;)

as for the drilled holes, spray some WD-40 to displace any water that might be on or around the hole. wait for that to dry then liberally spray some white lithium grease on it and it should be good. you can keep spraying it every so often as just shot or 2 of the stuff out of the can is good. (note, you can also use the white lithium grease to lube your hinges in the doors, hatch, hood latch and battery connections...it\'s the same stuff the dealerships use)

///M

02-05-2005, 01:39 AM

teaser pic:
http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/HIDs2.jpg

independent fogs:
http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/HIDs1.jpg

al01

02-05-2005, 01:48 AM

you can be a photographer :p

n damn it.. how come other ppls 6000k look so damn blue n purplee compare to mine.. or is it just mee :( :(

whats going on here????

do u kno if they will do only independent fogs for me??

Xenon

02-05-2005, 02:11 AM

I like the fact that my fogs stay on for 10-15 seconds after I turn my car off... it\'s like that \"guide me\" light on BMWs.

///M

02-05-2005, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by al01

you can be a photographer :p

n damn it.. how come other ppls 6000k look so damn blue n purplee compare to mine.. or is it just mee :( :(

whats going on here????

do u kno if they will do only independent fogs for me??

I\'m sure they can do them. Just give them a call. They used my car as a guinea pig (we had to mess around and test a few setups before we got it right) so now they know exactly how to do it.

BTW - if using Oliver\'s method independent fogs are not hard to do yourself. I was actually halfway through doing it but I never got around to completing them.

billyfo

02-05-2005, 02:31 AM

how much Jeff charge you for installation?

///M

02-05-2005, 02:35 AM

You got your 5000k kit? If so, congrats. ;)

$100 - bring Chaser\'s circuit diagram along and they\'ll set it up the proper way with relays.

Make sure you don\'t let Sam drill your chassis(!!!) (or get Jeff to do the entire install if he\'s free). Tell him to use the factory ground points! When I asked him why he didn\'t use the factory ground points he said \"because they look bad\"...wtf. I\'d rather have no holes drilled. (sorry for the rant...I guess someone has to be the guinea pig)

billyfo

02-05-2005, 02:37 AM

not yet, hopefully next Fri cause this weekend is busy:)

///M

02-05-2005, 04:40 AM

Arghh!!! The thought of having holes in my chassis is driving me crazy! I don\'t like irreversable mods...someone help me...:(

LOCKDOWN-P5

02-05-2005, 12:16 PM

Hello Everyone

Thank You for the postive feedback on LOCKDOWN Enterprises Clement. In terms of the grounding points that were drilled into the chassis, feel free to bring the car back by the shop and I can apply the White Lithium Grease I was reffering to you ( we were out of stock, re-supplied last night! ). We can also apply some 3M Strip Caulk over top of the ground point which will further seal the hole, as well as conceal the the ground point.

I have spoken with Sam and advised that from now on he should ask whether it is ok to drill or not for the customer. We are always striving to make sure everyone is 110% Satisfied with the work recieved here at LOCKDOWN, Clement please feel free to come on in and we can apply the Lithium and Strip Caulk for ya. If anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to give us a call at (647)-435-5896.

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

al01

02-05-2005, 02:13 PM

can someone plz send me the independent fog diagram?? :p i want the one that stays on for 10- 15 sec.. it sounds cool :) :)

mEtH

02-05-2005, 03:28 PM

its stickied on the mazda3forums.

Xenon

02-05-2005, 04:25 PM

al01 and all those planning on doing independent fogs (Oliver\'s walk-through):

Do it yourself. It\'s really not that hard. It saves you $50 - $100 in labour costs and you only need to spend $10 MAX for the wires and stuff.

The walkthrough is self-explanitory. I did the mod myself the day before I got my HIDs. Install took less than 30 minutes.

bubba1983

02-05-2005, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by LOCKDOWN-P5

Hello Everyone

Thank You for the postive feedback on LOCKDOWN Enterprises Clement. In terms of the grounding points that were drilled into the chassis, feel free to bring the car back by the shop and I can apply the White Lithium Grease I was reffering to you ( we were out of stock, re-supplied last night! ). We can also apply some 3M Strip Caulk over top of the ground point which will further seal the hole, as well as conceal the the ground point.

I have spoken with Sam and advised that from now on he should ask whether it is ok to drill or not for the customer. We are always striving to make sure everyone is 110% Satisfied with the work recieved here at LOCKDOWN, Clement please feel free to come on in and we can apply the Lithium and Strip Caulk for ya. If anyone has any questions or concerns, please feel free to give us a call at (647)-435-5896.

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

DAYUM...now thats customer service!!!

///M

02-05-2005, 05:12 PM

LOCKDOWN-P5

02-05-2005, 08:20 PM

Clement

Call me anytime on Tuesday ( I will be out of town until then ) and we can set up a time for you to come on by. Although after speaking with Sam, he had mentioned where you wanted it grounded was in the vehicle rain channel, and mositure build-up is not good for electrical connections. We\'ll get it fixed up to your satisfaction though, no problem.

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

Kager

02-06-2005, 10:43 PM

looks really nice~~i should do mine too!! still tyring to save some money for it!! lol

MAZDA3_MIKE

02-06-2005, 11:43 PM

I intalled my hids today wow i love them . makes the highbeams look yellow lol

chaser

02-07-2005, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by al01
im a newbiee to cars :( cant do anything.. afraid gonna screw it up
when i see the diagrams.. im like \"wtf\" .. i dunno how to read those and not good with wires..

bring the diagrams/walkthrough to your physics teacher and suggest him/her to do a partical lab with you car! :p

chaser

02-07-2005, 07:40 PM

Clement,

Can you put up some pics of the engine compartment? Just wanna compare the newbie\'s work (me of course) with the pro\'s. ;)

BTW, $100 for the installation (HID + Independent fogs) @ Lockdown is a very good deal :)

MajesticBlueNTO

02-07-2005, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by chaser

Originally posted by al01
im a newbiee to cars :( cant do anything.. afraid gonna screw it up
when i see the diagrams.. im like \"wtf\" .. i dunno how to read those and not good with wires..

bring the diagrams/walkthrough to your physics teacher and suggest him/her to do a partical lab with you car! :p

best reply ever

majic

02-07-2005, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by MajesticBlueN

Originally posted by chaser

Originally posted by al01
im a newbiee to cars :( cant do anything.. afraid gonna screw it up
when i see the diagrams.. im like \"wtf\" .. i dunno how to read those and not good with wires..

bring the diagrams/walkthrough to your physics teacher and suggest him/her to do a partical lab with you car! :p

best reply ever

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///M

02-08-2005, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by chaser

Clement,

Can you put up some pics of the engine compartment? Just wanna compare the newbie\'s work (me of course) with the pro\'s. ;)

BTW, $100 for the installation (HID + Independent fogs) @ Lockdown is a very good deal :)

A few quick pics I grabbed. Please excuse the quality. The last 2 pics shows the holes drilled for the grounding points. I plan to have them re-routed to the factory gorund point and filled.

http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/xtec/01.jpg
http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/xtec/02.jpg
http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/xtec/03.jpg
http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/xtec/04.jpg
http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/xtec/05.jpg

Hope this helps.

MajesticBlueNTO

02-08-2005, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by autoexe

A few quick pics I grabbed. Please excuse the quality. The last 2 pics shows the holes drilled for the grounding points. I plan to have them re-routed to the factory gorund point and filled.

Hope this helps.

the current ground points are fine where they are...i wouldn\'t bother having them re-routed and the drilled holes filled because it\'s not going to be filled with metal anyway so what\'s the point.

///M

02-08-2005, 04:40 AM

Just a matter of personal preference. And being paranoid about rust, I prefer to have them filled and painted over with touch up paint.

MajesticBlueNTO

02-08-2005, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by autoexe

Just a matter of personal preference. And being paranoid about rust, I prefer to have them filled and painted over with touch up paint.

touch up paint in an engine bay? you\'re too much...
the strip caulk will seal out moisture (http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/eastwood/products/854.asp)

here is the 3M Strip Caulk (http://products3.3m.com/catalog/us/en001/auto_marine_aero/automotive_aftermarket/node_GSLRY5ZD4Sgs/root_GST1T4S9TCgv/vroot_GSLPLPKL4Xge/bgel_GSBTX9SDWVbg/gvel_6DTWTJQPBBgl/command_AbcPageHandler/theme_us_aad_3_0) stuff... yes you can paint it, but, looking at the location of the drilled holes, why?

chaser

02-09-2005, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by autoexe

http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/xtec/02.jpg
http://individual.utoronto.ca/cc_706/xtec/03.jpg

They\'ve done some good job to hide the ballasts! :)

Dr Butcher

02-09-2005, 01:11 PM

I wouldn\'t worry too much about the drilling, I\'m sure there are plenty of spots on the car you wouldn\'t even think about that are more prone to corrosion than these 2 holes. :D Treat them with the grease and it should be fine. Don\'t lose sleep over it.

It was good seeing you there by the way!

///M

02-09-2005, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by chaser
They\'ve done some good job to hide the ballasts! :)

Yeah..they did. A bit too well though. :D
I have no idea how I\'ll remove them if I ever sell the car. :p

Dr Buthcer: Good to see you there too! Looking forward to seeing you join the HID club soon. ;)

lukel90

02-13-2005, 02:32 AM

where is lockdown located. i live in hamilton and my buddy wants his mazda3 hids installed with indelendent fogs. can someone give me the address?or phone number

al01

02-13-2005, 02:59 AM

Lockdown Enterprises
191 Nugget Avenue
Unit # 2
Scarborough Ont.
M1S 1B3
(647)-435-5896

its on mc cowan.. then make a turn into nugget ave.. then justt kept going until u see it :)

MajesticBlueNTO

02-13-2005, 01:07 PM

great job by Jeff at Lockdown on the Independent Fog mod. the delay is great when walking into my house late at night :D

Photo 1 (http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/337000-337999/337094_61_full.jpg)

Photo 2 (http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/337000-337999/337094_62_full.jpg)

triplezoom

02-21-2005, 02:08 AM

For those who did self-installation of the independent fogs (e.g. Xenon :p), exactly where can you find the 18 AWG wire and \'different size\' male & female connectors?

///M

02-21-2005, 02:53 AM

You can buy everything you need at Crappy Tire.

triplezoom

02-21-2005, 03:58 PM

Alright, thx a bunch autoexe. :D

LOCKDOWN-P5

02-25-2005, 08:13 PM

If you need parts to complete the Independent fog light modification, we also offer them here at LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc. We have a much better specialised selection of electrical parts than Canadian Tire does. Give us a call at (647)-435-5896 if you have any questions.

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

lukel90

02-26-2005, 01:01 AM

Jeff Bates..

i have the 5000k Philips Hids on my car. i keep them on all the time, but thats not what i want. i didnt do the bypass guide (Oliver\'s) or the Independent Fogs and i would like to have those done as i am no electrician. what i want to be able to do

have my fogs on in the day with the hids off......Fogs as DRL
still have the use of my autolight feature if possible..
have fogs and Hids on at night..

i just dont want to run my hids everytime i drive the car..can we set up an appointment sometime next week..you can email me at lukel90@hotmail.com.

thanks in advance

triplezoom

02-26-2005, 02:19 PM

Is there an estimate as to how much you guys do independent fogs for if Ive already installed Hid\'s myself?

lukel90

02-26-2005, 04:07 PM

its probably still around 100 bucks i guess. theres a lot of wires involved with the Ind.fogs and the bypass guide..i hope he answers soon.

al01

02-26-2005, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by lukel90

Jeff Bates..

i have the 5000k Philips Hids on my car. i keep them on all the time, but thats not what i want. i didnt do the bypass guide (Oliver\'s) or the Independent Fogs and i would like to have those done as i am no electrician. what i want to be able to do

have my fogs on in the day with the hids off......Fogs as DRL
still have the use of my autolight feature if possible..
have fogs and Hids on at night..

i just dont want to run my hids everytime i drive the car..can we set up an appointment sometime next week..you can email me at lukel90@hotmail.com.

thanks in advance

my car has that right now =D.. i hv indep fogs at day, n both at night.. auto light will still work.. i got it done at lockdown for about $40 =DDDD

triplezoom

02-27-2005, 12:59 AM

wow, independent fogs for $40?!? what a deal. :hoho Where is Lockdown Enterprises exactly?

al01

02-27-2005, 01:59 AM

Lockdown Enterprises
191 Nugget Avenue
Unit # 2
Scarborough Ont.
M1S 1B3
(647)-435-5896

tennight

05-19-2005, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by chaser

Clement,

Can you put up some pics of the engine compartment? Just wanna compare the newbie\'s work (me of course) with the pro\'s. ;)

BTW, $100 for the installation (HID + Independent fogs) @ Lockdown is a very good deal :)

just a question
is it $100 for the installation (HID + Independent fogs) @ Lockdown is a very good
i see some other post
said HID installation cost 99+GST
and Independent fogs cost 35+GST
which one is it???
thank you!!!

LOCKDOWN-P5

05-19-2005, 04:49 PM

Hello Everyone

My apologies, I did not notice there were replies to this post that went unanswered. To clear all of the pricing confusion up, here is the price for our H.I.D., independent foglight modification:

H.I.D. Installation ( Any Kit ): $99.99 plus GST

Independent foglight modification: $34.99 plus GST

Relays: $9.99 each plus GST/PST

Relay Harnesses: $4.99 each plus GST/PST

( Some H.I.D. kits, such as XTEC, need relays to be installed to increase the amount of current the lighting circuit provides to the ballasts of the kit. If relays are required, they are an additional cost, which has been listed above. )

If there is still any confusion as to pricing, please feel free to contact us at (647)-435-5896 and we would be glad to answer all of your questions. Please also feel free to check out our website at www.lockdownsecurity.ca which includes a mapquest link to our exact location.

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

silversurfer

06-17-2005, 10:43 AM

hey autoexe,

sorry if you\'ve already stated this somewhere but I can\'t seem to find it. what brand are your 6000k HIDs and where did you buy them? I\'m thinking of getting a set straight from Lockdown to avoid the hassle of shipping them.

Thanks.

chaser

06-17-2005, 04:10 PM

I believe he got his XTEC from Devin (Devin98). He\'s a local (Brampton) reseller.

Devin98

06-17-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by silversurfer

hey autoexe,

sorry if you\'ve already stated this somewhere but I can\'t seem to find it. what brand are your 6000k HIDs and where did you buy them? I\'m thinking of getting a set straight from Lockdown to avoid the hassle of shipping them.

Thanks.

Hey shoot me an email I can help you out with some HIDS, and I am local

xtec_hid@rogers.com

Thanks
-Devin Montreuil

m_a_t_r_i_x

06-19-2005, 01:22 AM

do you also install those umnitza predator angel/demon kit halo lights??? if so? how much? tnx

Originally posted by LOCKDOWN-P5

Hello Everyone

My apologies, I did not notice there were replies to this post that went unanswered. To clear all of the pricing confusion up, here is the price for our H.I.D., independent foglight modification:

H.I.D. Installation ( Any Kit ): $99.99 plus GST

Independent foglight modification: $34.99 plus GST

Relays: $9.99 each plus GST/PST

Relay Harnesses: $4.99 each plus GST/PST

( Some H.I.D. kits, such as XTEC, need relays to be installed to increase the amount of current the lighting circuit provides to the ballasts of the kit. If relays are required, they are an additional cost, which has been listed above. )

If there is still any confusion as to pricing, please feel free to contact us at (647)-435-5896 and we would be glad to answer all of your questions. Please also feel free to check out our website at www.lockdownsecurity.ca which includes a mapquest link to our exact location.

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

Optimzer

06-20-2005, 12:45 AM

Originally posted by m_a_t_r_i_x

do you also install those umnitza predator angel/demon kit halo lights??? if so? how much? tnx

I would be very interested in those as well along with HIDs

LOCKDOWN-P5

06-24-2005, 12:56 AM

The angel eye kits can be installed here at LOCKDOWN, however we are very leary about heating and pulling apart the factory projector housings. Liability is a bit of an issue here, as the housing has to be placed in an oven and heated up to gain access to the inside where the angel eye needs to be mounted. We are concerned about housing damage ( eg. melting ) and as such would strongly caution you to think this mod over before doing it.

We agree that it looks AMAZING on the 3, but it is a risky procedure to do. We have seen and heard horror stories from people on other car forums etc. who have melted their housings and had to purchase new ones from the dealer. This translates into big $$$. If this is a mod you would like to do, please call us at (647)-435-5896 and we will gladly assist you in any way we can.

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

skunk2

06-24-2005, 02:06 PM

some have used heatguns...maybe thats a safer alternative.

m_a_t_r_i_x

06-24-2005, 11:05 PM

thanks for your reply and word of caution about that mod....on second thought i wont take the chance considering the risks involve....

LOCKDOWN-P5

06-27-2005, 01:21 PM

Hello Everyone

Using a heat gun would indeed most likely be a safer alternative. The only issue there however, is the uniformity of the heat being applied. Because the haet gun only heats the area it is pointed at, pulling apart the silicone adhesive is going to be much harder due to the fact that only a small portion will be hot enough to come apart. This could lead to glass breakage if there is too much stress on a single area of the lens.

Using the oven method ensures the entire housing is uniformaly heated, therefore making it much easer to pull apart the glass lens from the housing body. As stated previously though, plastic, high temps, and too much time in the oven leads to soggy/melted headlight housings!:)

Regards

Jeff Bates
LOCKDOWN Enterprises Inc.

bubba1983

06-27-2005, 04:55 PM

BUT...if we had a spare set....ud be more than willing to try this out...melting and everything...

Optimzer

06-27-2005, 05:03 PM

hmmmm...not sure if I\'m still interested in this b/c of the potential cost/risk/whatever, but it sounds like bubba\'s pretty ready to jump right in!!

I found this bit of text on a seemingly reputable site called faqlight.carpassion.com. Basically, the key point is to use an oven, not a heatgun..:

How do I remove the front plastic glass from plastic headlight?

OEM healights usually have a seal that will soften with heat. The main idea here is to soften the seal, but not heat damaging headlight. This might not work on all headlamps. It is NOT recommended use iron, butane torch nor heat gun on plastic. It will warm up areas unevenly and will increase internal material stresses. Example of minor damage would be warping. More severe consequences would be cracking. Long time consequenses would be more prone to cracking during minor impacts by tennis balls, squarrals and so on.

First remove screws. They can be small and hard to find around the edge. The best is to use an oven. Preheat oven until reaching 400 degrees F. Then TURN OFF oven. Then insert headlight while watching that it doesnt get in direct contact with anything. Do not let element touch headlight, they will burn ugly marks. Use a few layers of holy tinfoil, silicone baking sheet or ceramic dish, etc. Let headlamp sit in there for up until 10 mins. Remove headlamp. Put on hot or welding gloves. Modern silicone baking gloves works also well. Pry carefully with wide screwdrivers or even better, a butter knifes, so lense comes off of reflector housing gradually, working your way around seams. Starting on bottom might be advantagous, so that in case u make marks, it will be in a hidden area.

Baking time of 10 minutes and 400F are general numbers, and will need to be adjusted depending on sealant used in headlight and volume of headlight.

The oven trick works successfully on:
Hyundai XG
Honda Civics, Prelude, Accord, Integra.
Ford 87-93 Mustang.
Lincoln Mark VII (84-92)
APC aftermarked for Honda Accord.
2002-2004 Nissan Altima

The oven trick has not worked on:
VW Passat (Hella)

How do I reattach the front plastic glass to headlight?

If reusing the old sealant is not possible, there are some alternatives listed on the \"Tools and Material\" page, which is accessible from this site main page. We have not been able to find an irreversable sealant. Its easy to belive that silicone can be removed later with heat. Shure it can, but fact is that most silicones have a melting point that are way higher than the melting point of the headlight itself.