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should mention that most of the km are highway.
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taken about a month ago.
should mention that most of the km are highway.
Was driving in Montreal this week and a tank of gas there doesn\'t seem to last as long a tank here. 2 tier gas. The stuff they get sucks.
The roads in Quebec are also absolute rubbish.
Yup, I couldn\'t believe how bad there were the last time I drove down to Montreal.Quote:
Originally posted by RSharpe
The roads in Quebec are also absolute rubbish.
Just read today in Consumer Reports that rates fuel economy Mazda 3 sport.
I assume it\'s for auto tranny.
City 13.9/100
Hwy 6.7/100
Overall 9.5/100
On the side note they also have numbers for Audi 3 and Saab 9-2X that pretty close to Mazda 3 numbers.
^^ but both of those need premium
The Mazda3 sedans get better mileage simply because they weigh less.
Also, MazdaKitten - I\'m not sure how much you weigh, but I\'m assuming it\'s not much? That kind of weight savings could add up over time towards mileage.
lol.. i hope you did not just call her phat ;) or there\'s gonna be trouble.. lol.. but i can tell you that the weight savings would NOT give her 100km more per tank..Quote:
Originally posted by Skarbro
The Mazda3 sedans get better mileage simply because they weigh less.
Also, MazdaKitten - I\'m not sure how much you weigh, but I\'m assuming it\'s not much? That kind of weight savings could add up over time towards mileage.
Back when I was in driving school classes (LONG time ago), my instructor said that every 100 lbs consumes 10% more gas.
No it wouldn\'t I agree. It would give her a very slight advantage in the long run if she weighed 90 lbs though LOL. The bottom line is that there are 4 major factors - the amount of lead foot, the amount of highway driving, the transmission, and if the car is in tune.Quote:
Originally posted by majic
lol.. i hope you did not just call her phat ;) or there\'s gonna be trouble.. lol.. but i can tell you that the weight savings would NOT give her 100km more per tank..Quote:
Originally posted by Skarbro
The Mazda3 sedans get better mileage simply because they weigh less.
Also, MazdaKitten - I\'m not sure how much you weigh, but I\'m assuming it\'s not much? That kind of weight savings could add up over time towards mileage.
Well you do make a good point... if I weigh about 100 lbs less than an average guy then I can see it over time. I thought about that too.
For example. Last night my bf and I drove to Milton from Sauga with 4 rims in the back seat. The car felt so sluggish and today i hit half tank and it was 325 (usually it is over 350). Just a slight decrease but the weight had a lot to do with it me thinks
The problem is that the mileage is rather poor if all your driving is city or stop-and-go, whereas if you can stick to just highway it\'s actually quite good IMO. For me, a tanks worth of city driving will net me around 450km before the gas light goes on, whereas a tanks worth of highway driving will get me no less than 600km before the light goes on.
Also, if there is a difference between the hatch and sedan, it is very, very marginal. In a year of owning both types I have yet to see a difference.
The last dozen or so tank-fulls I am averaging 34.6 mpg(imperial measure), almost all city driving.
When on occasion driving highway, I get 36 mpg.I have a Sport GT 2.3, I don\'t baby the vehicle and my highway speed is 130kph@3600rpm on average with spurts to 160kph:D.
My stereo system adds approx 30kg to the weight of my vehicle and I\'m no slimjim either.So what I\'m trying to say here is...for those people that are concerned about lousy fuel consumption either try different fuels, reset the computer or use fuel injector cleaner periodically.If these things don\'t help take the vehicle in for a check....200k for half tank seems excessive and I would think that that is a BIG SIGN there is a problem and with the price of gas its also alot of money being burnt away.As we all know these cars don\'t all come from the factory in perfect condition and it would not be out of the ordinary for something to be out of whack and to cause poor gas consumption.So take the car into the dealer, don\'t let them tell you its \"normal\" and demand a full diagnostic.
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AMEN!!!
Been there, done that! (gone to dealer for diagnostic) They found problems, and now I seem to be sorted. Just experimenting with different levels of octane now. Wanna see if lower octane (I like to run Ultra 94 (don\'t want to hear it!)) will get me more clicks.
94 Octane-City/Highway Granny driving: Approx. 450 km\'s (at reserve)
91 Octane-City/Highway Granny driving: 470 km\'s (at reserve)
87 Octane-City/Highway Granny driving: 470ish km\'s (at reserve)
:D
Okay, okay, yer all right...I guess I\'ll start running 87 and just putting some STP in the tank every little while.
Most likely will... I run 87 and I get about 550-580 kms a tank.Quote:
Originally posted by doug E fresh
Wanna see if lower octane (I like to run Ultra 94 (don\'t want to hear it!)) will get me more clicks.
Don\'t you worry about running 87 octane? I mean down the road? I\'ve seen cars with gunked up injectors, engine knocking, and all kinds of other problems from using that gas. I wonder if that\'s why people need injector flushes and new injectors after a few years?:(
I guess it\'s o.k. if you\'re leasing, or not planning on keeping your car for a long time.
I\'m just leery of going that route since I intend on keeping my car for a while.
Anywho, don\'t mind me, I\'m just thinking out loud.:D
Thanks for the input!!!
your car was MADE to run 87 :sarcQuote:
Originally posted by doug E fresh
Don\'t you worry about running 87 octane? I mean down the road? I\'ve seen cars with gunked up injectors, engine knocking, and all kinds of other problems from using that gas. I wonder if that\'s why people need injector flushes and new injectors after a few years?:(
I guess it\'s o.k. if you\'re leasing, or not planning on keeping your car for a long time.
I\'m just leery of going that route since I intend on keeping my car for a while.
Anywho, don\'t mind me, I\'m just thinking out loud.:D
Thanks for the input!!!
go read the manual.. and hand over the 5bux/tank over to me.. thanks!
That\'s what they SAY, so you can keep coming back for extremely expensive service. Makes you wonder why these new cars don\'t have long shelf lives, eh?
I\'d rather use the $5 for Timmy\'s, thanx.
Anything above 87 Octane is a waste of money unless you have messed (f\'ed up in my opinion) with your timing or are running boost (supercharger, turbo). 87 will not gunk up your injectors any more than any other octane. I don\'t know where you heard that! Older cars sometimes have to switch to higher octane because they have carbon build up that results in engine knock. Higher octane helps curb engine knock - hence why some older engines have to switch to higher octane. The fuel itself is not the reason for carbon build up - inefficient cylinder explosion is (i.e., rich condition). Newer cars are carefully regulated by computers and if taken care of will not build up carbon like older cars. They are pre-programmed to burn the fuel as efficiently as possible. Carbon will build up over time - but not quickly. That is why we get carbon flushes once in a blue moon....Quote:
Originally posted by doug E fresh
Don\'t you worry about running 87 octane? I mean down the road? I\'ve seen cars with gunked up injectors, engine knocking, and all kinds of other problems from using that gas. I wonder if that\'s why people need injector flushes and new injectors after a few years?:(
I guess it\'s o.k. if you\'re leasing, or not planning on keeping your car for a long time.
I\'m just leery of going that route since I intend on keeping my car for a while.
Anywho, don\'t mind me, I\'m just thinking out loud.:D
Thanks for the input!!!
What do you mean they don\'t have \"long shelf lives\"?Quote:
Originally posted by doug E fresh
That\'s what they SAY, so you can keep coming back for extremely expensive service. Makes you wonder why these new cars don\'t have long shelf lives, eh?
I\'d rather use the $5 for Timmy\'s, thanx.
No matter what kind of gas you run, whether its 87 or 94, clogged injectors will happen. As far as engine knock is concerned, well that comes from using the wrong type of gas (87 on a 91 engine). Its a fact of life with gas powered engines.Quote:
Originally posted by doug E fresh
Don\'t you worry about running 87 octane? I mean down the road? I\'ve seen cars with gunked up injectors, engine knocking, and all kinds of other problems from using that gas. I wonder if that\'s why people need injector flushes and new injectors after a few years?:(
I guess it\'s o.k. if you\'re leasing, or not planning on keeping your car for a long time.
I\'m just leery of going that route since I intend on keeping my car for a while.
Anywho, don\'t mind me, I\'m just thinking out loud.:D
Thanks for the input!!!
You could run 91 on your engine if it makes you feel better, but you will be spending more money.
I guess I\'ve been burnt one too many times. I must have been driving the wrong vehicles. This can make me a little bitter...
I know you guys know what you\'re talking about, which is why I keep reading.
Thanx for the tips, guys. ;)
Hey sorry hope my post did\'nt sound preachy. So why not mention what problems they(dealer) found?Quote:
Originally posted by doug E fresh
AMEN!!!
Been there, done that! (gone to dealer for diagnostic) They found problems, and now I seem to be sorted. Just experimenting with different levels of octane now. Wanna see if lower octane (I like to run Ultra 94 (don\'t want to hear it!)) will get me more clicks.
94 Octane-City/Highway Granny driving: Approx. 450 km\'s (at reserve)
91 Octane-???
89 Octane-???
I\'ll let everyone know (hopefully you care!):D
Would be informative to the forum!
When I mentioned trying different fuel I meant Shell or Sunoco etc; using anything other than 87 octane is a waste of money and in some cases its worse to use higher octane.( I find Shell gives me better mileage)
Injectors and combustion chambers will carbon up eventually on all gas vehicles, but it shouldn\'t effect anyones car till way down the road and it can be postponed by using injector cleaner every few months and maybe every 100k getting the injectors and system proffessionally cleaned.My second car, which I\'ve owned since 92\' is fuel injected has over 300k and i\'ve never had a problem with injectors or carbon build up ie; Knock and have used nothing but 87 octane.
just some thoughts...
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I am praising Joe for the new MS Intake. Even after revving and being hard on the pedal ever since I put it on, I somehow managed just over 300km in half a tank!!! I\'ll post more realistic figures when I get some as this might be a fluke, but WOOOHOOOO an intake and good gas milage? SWEEEET!!!! :D
No worries! You didn\'t sound preachy at all, you were just giving some advice.Quote:
Originally posted by Flagrum_3
Hey sorry hope my post did\'nt sound preachy. So why not mention what problems they(dealer) found?Quote:
Originally posted by doug E fresh
AMEN!!!
Been there, done that! (gone to dealer for diagnostic) They found problems, and now I seem to be sorted. Just experimenting with different levels of octane now. Wanna see if lower octane (I like to run Ultra 94 (don\'t want to hear it!)) will get me more clicks.
94 Octane-City/Highway Granny driving: Approx. 450 km\'s (at reserve)
91 Octane-???
89 Octane-???
I\'ll let everyone know (hopefully you care!):D
Would be informative to the forum!
When I mentioned trying different fuel I meant Shell or Sunoco etc; using anything other than 87 octane is a waste of money and in some cases its worse to use higher octane.( I find Shell gives me better mileage)
Injectors and combustion chambers will carbon up eventually on all gas vehicles, but it shouldn\'t effect anyones car till way down the road and it can be postponed by using injector cleaner every few months and maybe every 100k getting the injectors and system proffessionally cleaned.My second car, which I\'ve owned since 92\' is fuel injected has over 300k and i\'ve never had a problem with injectors or carbon build up ie; Knock and have used nothing but 87 octane.
just some thoughts...
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I have a memory like a siv ( not sure about the spelling ), err, bad memory. Will have to check my records on exactly what was corrected. Will update post.
Thanks for the tips and advice, rather than making me look bad for my opinions.:p