Oh that's right! I gotta see that beast sometime!Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
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Oh that's right! I gotta see that beast sometime!Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
back it to f**** out and make roomQuote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Anyone up for the carshow next week. Tuesday to Friday?
I would be interested. Tuesday is likely to be a little less crowded.Quote:
Originally Posted by CelestSpeed3
I'd like to go during the day though. Do the autoshow then grab dinner.
works for me, I can clear the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by CelestSpeed3
Sweet, i'll post a thread and see if anyone else is interested.
This one gets special treatment. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lokiaparandi
details details!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
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I'm on course to beat my best ever 618 kms on a single tank of gas. I have 530 kms on it right now with just over 1/3 left. This is with a one hour traffic jam from Pickering to Oshawa, but I kept cruise dead at 100 the whole way other than that. I'll take a picture when I have to fill. I'm going to be driving home tomorrow from Montreal.
This is why ppl shouldn't post dumb shit on the forums and expect to be respected...lol...
http://jalopnik.com/5886063/how-not-to-lower-your-car
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How Not To Lower Your Car
A thread on StanceWorks — the popular forum for lowered and hellaflush cars — began with a proud 2001 Honda Civic owner showing off his trunk-rattling sound system and slammed car. Then forum members quickly discovered how he lowered the car. As you can see, it's the kind of horrific DIY engineering that makes you want to scream, "You're doing it wrong!"
The owner, who goes by the name smokenyall, begins by introducing his "project loud and low" with some videos of its massive sound system shaking the car with some trap rap.
When smokenyall shows pictures of his new suspension modifications "for teh extra lows," StanceWorks forum members realize that they are dealing with someone who has no idea what he's doing. One person calls the Honda owner a ricer, which clearly hurts the owner's feelings, but it is forum member OpelWagenGT who steps in as the voice of reason.Quote:
okay well ill introduce myself im from northern cali my 01 civic ex has 278,XXX and climbing, original tranny and motor its all stock exterior wise except my volvo lip.
Smokenyall responds that his bolts are fine and there's even a plate to distribute the force from the suspension. After pointing out that the plate is attached with a rusted bolts, OpelWagenGT steps in with an extremely helpful diagram.Quote:
I think regardless of whether or not you are a "ricer" that is definitely not the correct way to raise your strut towers. Nor is that method safe. Are you even using grade 8 bolts? The force of the suspension should be distributed into the shock tower not centralised on the three small bolt locations.
At this point I don't think anyone is going to change your mind but we just want you to know that what you're doing is not safe so you can't complain if the system fails.Quote:
I drew up something is MS paint real quick to attemp to show you why your setup is dangerous, because apparently you don't understand.
Smokenyall seems to take this to heart and ends up declaring that he is going to replace the bolts with spacers, as if that will solve the whole problem. This is when the thread starts getting new visitors and people lose their temper. User cobrawannabe begins the mandatory internet hate fest.
Smokenyall is still open to advice, asking how he can make his "top hats" safer and responding to the growing number of demands that he never work on cars again:Quote:
Put down the f***ing weed when you come up with car "modifications". This is f***ing offensive. Dude, I'm never harsh or rude on S/W because I feel my car needs a lot of work before I have license to be; but COME ON. This is an absolute joke, and a danger to everyone in your car. You are the epitome of "stupid Honda kid". I really respect a lot of the Honda scene, there are some guys out there really setting the bar.
User 325irollin explains why even when he goes looking for help, he's being a complete idiot.Quote:
Thats never going to happen. okay what would you guys suggest to make my top hats "safer". I already have had spacers cut to replace the nuts that were being used as spacers, and im waiting for them to arrive to my house. Should i flip my bolts over and have the heads welded to the bottom plate how obk did or how the hotchkis plates came. btw if you guys didnt notice obk is using one nut per bolt as a spacer on top of the hotchkis spacers.
At this point, all semblance of helpfulness disappears from the threat, smokenyall disappears, new visitors start showing up, and any hope for civil discussion disappears with the first posted image macro. Aside from people just laughing at smokenyall's Civic, one post sums things up pretty clearly:Quote:
how about you just buy some ****ing coilovers and get a shop to install them for you the proper way since you obviously suck at being a mechanic.
As the StanceWorks forum members predicted, the thread is now going viral, and check out this thread at vwvortex to see this Civic owner get more unhelpful, completely deserved ridicule.Quote:
YOU JUST BECAME INTERNET FAMOUS FOR BEING A RETARD!
idea:
make copies of those 'lowering plates'
advertise in the "its friday thread, does nothing for your post count"
proft
And in response...someone got the Comment of the Day with this reply:
http://jalopnik.com/5886107/cotd-no-...but-me-edition
Unfortunately, IRL, the helpful comments usually fall to the wayside and wisdom is usually imparted through humour that ppl notice, rather than a thoughtful technical response. Furthermore, a lot of essence gets lost on the internet either due to varying levels of technical knowledge and understanding...and of course intelligence.Quote:
There are two ways to see this.
A) Guy is a total noob.
B) Guy is a total troll.
If A, he deserves respect and guidance, in the end he's a guy trying to get help and trying to work on his car, well done or not, for all the wrong reasons probably but to each his own, nobody should judge his taste. So, in case he is a novice, he's been trolled hard enough to hide his ass in Russia to never show again, not at least with the same handle/car combo.
If B, there's the huge chance that all newbies out there, trying to get instructions/guidance into how to make some wrenching themselves are going to lose the confidence to go and ask on forums.
Fortunately all the forums that I visit are troll-less. Probably because they are not that famous or popular. But I think, that we, as forum members or community members should all be more like OpelWagenGT, to be helpful and provide a sensible explanation. Remove those stupid cliches and try Forums to meet their objective, to share information and be a source of knowledge. Avoiding troll baits and obvious scams is important and should not be encouraged. And that is why Jalopnik is a great community, because we troll our selves to the point where you know that any stupid reply is a trolling, and keep your life going, and because, when there's a total newbie we don't go barking at him like famished dogs and rather give a hand on any question.
That is why even trolling or being trolled at Jalopnik is cool, and seen with a different lens, because we, as a community are beyond trolling. Cheers for that Jalops, I hope we never lose that essence.
Sometimes a 3-word answer imparts more undertanding and knowledge than a dissertation, but sometimes that gets lost on the internet intelligence filters, and will be interpreted as flaming, since sometimes that wisdom also flies above the heads of the powers that be.
I guess we are all human...after all....lol...
Hold up, does this mean even with grade 8 bolts I might have a problem with my setup??
Grade 8 is for pussies, grade 16 and tits or GTFO
One thing I noticed and I wanted to share this, is what I realized with the NATOR guys tonight:
It's ok to get the car used...2007 Gen1's at a good price. Nothign wrong with that. That part that distinguishes the smart owners and the ones who are struggling, is that no matter how much the car costs you, it costs the same for everyone to maintain.
For example, whether you have a 2007 or 2012, you'll need a fuel pump. A new one costs the same no matter which Gen it's for. The smart owners know this and understand this to be the cost of ownership...that's why we have a lot of guys with strong 2007's around, and I'd hope that part of the reason is because of some of the knowledge shared on TM3 and MSf.
The owners, who have bought this car on a budget, used, and looked for deal, prolly wonders why they need to spend $700+ on a fuel pump for their $15K car. I suppose for those of us who paid full retail for the car, $700 for insurance isn't a lot by percentage, relative to the price you paid for the car. Obviously that percentage relative to the car will be much higher if you bought the car for much less.
I guess what I'm trying to say, as well as clarifying this a bit for newer owners, in preparation of our March 4 new owner seminar, is that the cost of ownership is the same whether you got the car new or not. The guys who are ok with this...financially and emotionally...will have an easier time and a more enjoyable car. The owners who got a good deal on a used car, have to be prepared to likely outlay a little bit more to get tthe car back into peak shape, and then after that, the costs of properly maintaining and modding the car is the same for everyone.
hpfp is definitely on my list.
That's so very true, and I never really thought about it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fobio
Unless you're planning on leaving it bone stock and enjoying it the way it is, you really need to put the money into it to get it running properly.
you know it's got to be on a Subie...prolly goes well with the pink fog lights?
seriously...is it a joke or one of us MS3's really running with pink foglights?!
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...0f94e2a450.jpg
Doesnt that Prey dude have pink fogs on his 2nd gen cwp?
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Originally Posted by alhope34
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Originally Posted by alhope34
isn't it a little bit of a heat score? amongst other things...Quote:
Originally Posted by lokiaparandi
My head hurts....
So does my hip and left foot....
Thanks for hosting the night man. Apparently, everyone had fun...and I have no idea why. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by lokiaparandi
Loki - "What happened?"Quote:
Originally Posted by lokiaparandi
Boyracer - "You fell"
Was it blood or bbq sauce?
Too bad the game sucked, but great night. R.B and booze who woulda' thunk it :)
Fobio thanks for bringing the OCC.