Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
3DEE
5 People locally had blown engines? That's sick. I bought the 3 cause I thought they're made in Japan. I might as well have bought a Ford. And to think I contemplated the Impreza. Shit.
Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan. And for the record, Mazda has always sold engines/transmissions to Ford, NOT the other way around.
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Originally Posted by
BETRTHNU
Another reason I did not look at getting another Mazda 3, their engines are just not reliable. Blowing up at 60XXX kms is just insane.
BMW's made in the USA (like the X3 and X5) are much less reliable than the Mazda 3. My friend worked at BMW for a while and would always see the same X3's and X5's in for electrical and/or transmission problems, and even all the mechanics he worked with said they had garbage build quality and in general were just horribly engineered vehicles. That buddy of mine is a BMW fanatic and doesn't even consider them real BMWs. However, BMW's made in Germany (like the 3 and 5 series) have pretty good reliability.
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
alhope34
Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan. And for the record, Mazda has always sold engines/transmissions to Ford, NOT the other way around.
the 2.0 and 2.3 in the 3 are Ford Duratecs (originally used in the Focus) with a Ford block and Mazda-improved head.
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Originally Posted by
alhope34
BMW's made in the USA (like the X3 and X5) are much less reliable than the Mazda 3. My friend worked at BMW for a while and would always see the same X3's and X5's in for electrical and/or transmission problems, and even all the mechanics he worked with said they had garbage build quality and in general were just horribly engineered vehicles. That buddy of mine is a BMW fanatic and doesn't even consider them real BMWs. However, BMW's made in Germany (like the 3 and 5 series) have pretty good reliability.
the current X3 is made by Magna International in the Magna Steyr plant in Graz, Austria. it was never made in the USA. The next gen X3 will be moved to the USA.
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
MajesticBlueNTO
the 2.0 and 2.3 in the 3 are Ford Duratecs (originally used in the Focus) with a Ford block and Mazda-improved head.
From Wiki, not the best source, but something.
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Originally Posted by Wiki
Ford Duratec 20 engine in a 2005 Ford Focus
Beginning in 2004, Ford dropped the old 4-cylinder Zetec engines in favor of Mazda's MZR design. Thus, 2005 and present Duratec 4-cylinder engines are Mazdas. This includes the 2.0 L Duratec 20 the 2.3 L Duratec 23 and the all new 2.5 L Duratec 25. The engine is currently built by Ford in Chihuahua, Mexico; Dearborn, Michigan; Valencia, Spain; Laguna, Philippines; and Nanjing, China.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratec_engine
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
condor888000
what the article in wikipedia doesn't mention is that the duratec/mzr was a joint collaboration between Ford and Mazda.
up to a recent point in time, the MZR had exclusive variable valve timing and variable intake manifold, when compared to the Ford Duratec version; while both engines shared the same block.
long story short, the engine is not *entirely* a Mazda, since Ford did have a hand in its development...which was what I was trying to say when I quoted alhope's post.
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
alhope34
Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan.
I visited the Hiroshima factory in March 2008 and they weren't making 3's there.
2's, Miata's, RX8's,
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
MajesticBlueNTO
the 2.0 and 2.3 in the 3 are Ford Duratecs (originally used in the Focus) with a Ford block and Mazda-improved head.
+ 1 our engines have Ford logo's stamped on them in multiple places .
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
MS MSP
I visited the Hiroshima factory in March 2008 and they weren't making 3's there.
2's, Miata's, RX8's,
The packing slip I found in my car said it was made in Hiroshima. Also, I have seen several people on M3F mention that the Mazda 3's were made in Hiroshima. Maybe it's different for the regular 3's, but I am 100% sure my MS3 was made there.
And again, everything I've ever heard is Mazda designed the 2.0 and 2.3 MZR with Ford looking over their shoulders because they were going to stick the Mazda engines into their Focus. I trust what my uncle says about Ford more than anyone. For 6 years he's been the CAW union head for the Brampton plant until he retired at the end of last summer.
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
I've heard that the 3 was built in Hiroshima as well, but this link says they're actually built in Hofo, which seems to be ~150km south west of Hiroshima.
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Originally Posted by
MajesticBlueNTO
what the article in wikipedia doesn't mention is that the duratec/mzr was a joint collaboration between Ford and Mazda.
up to a recent point in time, the MZR had exclusive variable valve timing and variable intake manifold, when compared to the Ford Duratec version; while both engines shared the same block.
long story short, the engine is not *entirely* a Mazda, since Ford did have a hand in its development...which was what I was trying to say when I quoted alhope's post.
I agree it was a joint collaboration, however your post made it seem like you were saying that they were an entirely Ford design that Mazda just took. Not quite. On the flip side I guess mine made it seem like I was saying it was an entirely Mazda engine Ford took. Boo misunderstandings.
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
condor888000
I agree it was a joint collaboration, however your post made it seem like you were saying that they were an entirely Ford design that Mazda just took. Not quite. On the flip side I guess mine made it seem like I was saying it was an entirely Mazda engine Ford took. Boo misunderstandings.
don't you love the internet and the million ways text-only conversations can be interpreted :)
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
As a matter of fact, no. :chuckle
Re: Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)
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Originally Posted by
alhope34
Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan. And for the record, Mazda has always sold engines/transmissions to Ford, NOT the other way around.
BMW's made in the USA (like the X3 and X5) are much less reliable than the Mazda 3. My friend worked at BMW for a while and would always see the same X3's and X5's in for electrical and/or transmission problems, and even all the mechanics he worked with said they had garbage build quality and in general were just horribly engineered vehicles. That buddy of mine is a BMW fanatic and doesn't even consider them real BMWs. However, BMW's made in Germany (like the 3 and 5 series) have pretty good reliability.
Im not sure if the 09's are but the older Mazda 6 is not a Mazda engine. Its a Ford Duratec.
