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    Default Is it time to scrap the penny?

    I think when it costs more to make the penny then it's worth, it doesn't make sense

    Is it time to scrap the penny?

    http://www.thestar.com/article/409423

    New Democrat's bill calls for elimination of the Canadian penny
    Apr 03, 2008 04:30 AM
    Richard Brennan
    in Ottawa
    Robert Benzie
    in Toronto

    A Winnipeg MP says the penny is an "expensive nuisance" and should be scrapped this year.

    "The penny is of no commercial value, it does not circulate and costs more to produce than it's actually worth," said New Democrat MP Pat Martin (Winnipeg Centre), who introduced a private member's bill yesterday calling for the penny's demise by 2009.

    "There is no business case for continuing to produce the penny. Making cents, in fact, makes no sense at all," he told a press conference. He said his bill includes a formula to round off prices to the nearest nickel, which he insists will be revenue neutral.

    Getting rid of the penny – there are an estimated 20 billion of them, or about 60,000 tonnes, in circulation in Canada – has been talked about before, but Martin said recent studies suggest the penny has outlived its usefulness.

    Although the Royal Canadian Mint says it costs 0.8 cents to make a penny, Martin said that just covers the metal. Add in labour and the cost of hauling the coins around and it comes to more like 4.5 cents each.

    A study done in 2007 by the Desjardins Group, a Quebec finance company, estimated keeping the penny was costing $130 million a year in production, storage, transportation and other expenses. Of the estimated 1.2 billion pennies minted each year, Martin says most end up in drawers, jars and tins.

    The penny, at one time almost pure copper, is now 94 per cent steel, 1.5 per cent nickel and 4.5 per cent copper-plated zinc.

    Other countries have already moved to eliminate the one-cent piece, including Australia and New Zealand.

    "They managed to cope quite well and, in fact, they have introduced a rounding formula and my bill will also recommend to take care of what we do with the odd number pricing," he said.

    Martin said this year marks the 100th anniversary of the domestic production of the Canadian penny and "we believe at the same time we have a birthday party for the penny we should have a funeral." Before 1908, all Canadian coins were minted in Britain.

    Premier Dalton McGuinty added his voice to Martin's private member's bill. He said Canadians want change by getting less change in their pockets.

    "I just think ... a penny ain't what it used to be," he said yesterday.

    "I think that we've got so many retail sectors now there are opportunities, the `take-a-penny, leave-a-penny' type of thing," he said, noting the coins are so worthless people give them away.

    "Go talk to cashiers and ask people how eager they are to receive and to deal with pennies. I just think a nickel is more practical."

    Federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said getting rid of the penny is not on his agenda.

    "It's not a priority for us now. We do review that. We look at the penny and see whether something ought to be done. But not right now," he said.

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    Default Re: Is it time to scrap the penny?

    I'd be more then happy to ditch the penny. I've got tins of them that need to be rolled and cashed (I empty out my loose change into jars/tins).

    My g/f's mother had a 10L water bottle nearly full. They aren't useful in my eyes, except in highschool. When I was taught the art of penny flicking.
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    Default Re: Is it time to scrap the penny?

    watch this about the implementation of pennies
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FffTJ...eature=related

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    Default Re: Is it time to scrap the penny?

    i take mine to walmart; the self-service payment machines accept pennies.

    of course, you could end up looking like a fool while you plug several hundred pennies into the machine
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    I don't know how I feel about this...I would definitely like to have less change but at the same time I don't trust the gov't. I think they'll just round everything up so we pay more, haha.
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    ^^^LOL^^^

    If I saw a typical Wal-Mart shopper paying for their weekly Doritos horde with hundreds and hundreds of pennies, I don't think I'd ever stop laughing!

    Down with the penny, I say. The only argument against abolishing it is for nostalgia's sake and that is bollocks...

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    I say we get rid of it. I'm sure things will end up being rounded up, but hopefully nobody should be affected too negatively.

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    I hate all change.

    We added 2 new coins in the past 20 years without getting rid of any.

    Kill the penny.
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    I'm with the kill the penny crowd. I never carry coins around. They are bulky, heavy and jingle when you walk.

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    I'm not in favour of scrapping the penny... if it's gonna cost me more because prices will round up, then I am totally against it... so what if it saves the gov't money? that just means they give themselves higher and more frequent raises...

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    You guys are farked up. What am I going to throw at Broli if we don't have any pennies? I ain't gonna throw quarters at him. He ain't worth dat much YO!

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    Default Re: Is it time to scrap the penny?

    i find i just end up with jar after jar of pennies.id be okay if they did off with it, means i get less pennies in return. although. how are you going to get change for something lets say 4.99 (tax inc) and give them a $5. lol i wont get my 1 penny back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    You guys are farked up. What am I going to throw at Broli if we don't have any pennies? I ain't gonna throw quarters at him. He ain't worth dat much YO!

    i only accept loonies . . go fark urself!



    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    i find i just end up with jar after jar of pennies.id be okay if they did off with it, means i get less pennies in return. although. how are you going to get change for something lets say 4.99 (tax inc) and give them a $5. lol i wont get my 1 penny back

    thats the point, they will round off prices, or price things so they go to the nearest 5 cents . . it will end up about even for you!
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    I say to hell with all coins. Plastic for everyone!
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    What will happen to the 2 cent candys at your local 7/Eleven.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sicsol View Post
    What will happen to the 2 cent candys at your local 7/Eleven.
    You have to buy them in bulk now
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