CSCS Aug 9 @ Cayuga/TMP *Pics & Vid*

[Fobio]

Yep all my runs where done with rpms going down. My best run was a 14.289 and that was with wheel hop I guess we don't have a choice

which engine mount were you running?

[mleblond]

which engine mount were you running?

Street Unit

[1flycdnM3]

good to see alot of ms3's represent yesterday...i don't have the skills for the course yet but i did ok on the 1/4mile....
My best time yesterday was 13.890 sec w/turboback,eng.mount,custom inlet pipe and cai..

oh man do i really hate to do this to you right now. But i don't want someone else to do it later on. you DID NOT run that time. All the numbers are wrong. I have been to the track a billion times and the "perfect launch" is .500 so anything lower than that means you went early which also means that all the data/numbers on that sheet would be wrong. sorry bro.

[mleblond]

oh man do i really hate to do this to you right now. But i don't want someone else to do it later on. you DID NOT run that time. All the numbers are wrong. I have been to the track a billion times and the "perfect launch" is .500 so anything lower than that means you went early which also means that all the data/numbers on that sheet would be wrong. sorry bro.

You are probably right because I had a run where my r/t was 0.169 and missed a gear and still got 14's but my best was 14.289 at 101mph (163 km/h) with a r/t in the 0.5.....here he got to 100mph....not sure how I can go faster and have a slower time? But i had nothing but problems figuring out launch so...

[Fobio]

oh man do i really hate to do this to you right now. But i don't want someone else to do it later on. you DID NOT run that time. All the numbers are wrong. I have been to the track a billion times and the "perfect launch" is .500 so anything lower than that means you went early which also means that all the data/numbers on that sheet would be wrong. sorry bro.

I have read and I quote:

"Reaction time has no bearing on the actually 1/4 Et are trap speed, it only matters if you're trying to be the first driver across the line."

Care to elaborate? Maybe you can start a drag-racing thread...

[silvermist99]

You are probably right because I had a run where my r/t was 0.169 and missed a gear and still got 14's but my best was 14.289 at 101mph (163 km/h) with a r/t in the 0.5.....here he got to 100mph....not sure how I can go faster and have a slower time? But i had nothing but problems figuring out launch so...

slower 1/4 time = more time to gain trap speed. I had a higher trap speed in my slower runs too when I used to do 1/4.

oh man do i really hate to do this to you right now. But i don't want someone else to do it later on. you DID NOT run that time. All the numbers are wrong. I have been to the track a billion times and the "perfect launch" is .500 so anything lower than that means you went early which also means that all the data/numbers on that sheet would be wrong. sorry bro.

There was bracket racing on going on that day. Bracket racing isnt' 0.50 is it? I'm not too familiar with drag racing.

I've only raced once in cayuga 1/4 mile but doesn't the clock start ticking after you cross the line? Reaction time is just time to react to the light I think, clock ticks after you move. I know this is how the st thomas clock works don't know about cayuga.

I think his time is pretty in line with what others are running, low 14 with a 2.2-2.3 60' every .1 you cut off your launch will result in at least 0.2 faster time at teh end.

edit: found this on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_racing

The elapsed time is a measure of performance only; it does not, per se, determine the winner. Because elapsed time does not include reaction time, a car with a faster elapsed time can actually lose the race if the driver does not react to the green light fast enough.

the 13.89 is his elapsed time which shouldn't have been effected by R/T.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

oh man do i really hate to do this to you right now. But i don't want someone else to do it later on. you DID NOT run that time. All the numbers are wrong. I have been to the track a billion times and the "perfect launch" is .500 so anything lower than that means you went early which also means that all the data/numbers on that sheet would be wrong. sorry bro.

if you've "been to the track a billion times" you should know that reaction time has NO bearing on the numbers thereafter.

RT is the from when the green light goes on to when you break the last of the staging beams. once the beam is broken, the timing starts and everything else is VALID.

[Unoriginalusername]

Yep... a car can run 12 and lose to a car that ran 13 based on ET (when they left). ET's determine which car crosses the line first all other things being equal

[1flycdnM3]

if you've "been to the track a billion times" you should know that reaction time has NO bearing on the numbers thereafter.

RT is the from when the green light goes on to when you break the last of the staging beams. once the beam is broken, the timing starts and everything else is VALID.

Actually that is incorrect as I have been in very close contact with the officials at previous events i have been to. I should clarify though what i meant by that. I simply wanted to point out that the final calculation would be "off" but all the 60' and other incremental times would be fine. I have never done bracket racing either so it is possible the time starts at -0.000 rather than +0.500 but im not sure how that would tell you if you "went early" so i doubt it.

[1flycdnM3]

Yep... a car can run 12 and lose to a car that ran 13 based on ET (when they left). ET's determine which car crosses the line first all other things being equal

that is CORRECT, but if you "break the beam" before the final light/stage, you would still register YOUR time regardless of whether the car beside you is faster or slower. For instance, if you crossed the line first, but you "broke the beam" and recorded a 13.69, the guy beside you could still finish behnd you and record a faster time of 13.43

Like Majestic said, bracket racing might be different and the time starts when you cross the beam and there are no staging lights?? (not really sure how that works) But in this case, it would be a much more accurate time and have no bearing on when you put your foot on the gas (as said already)

[MajesticBlueNTO]

that is CORRECT, but if you "break the beam" before the final light/stage, you would still register YOUR time regardless of whether the car beside you is faster or slower. For instance, if you crossed the line first, but you "broke the beam" and recorded a 13.69, the guy beside you could still finish behnd you and record a faster time of 13.43

Like Majestic said, bracket racing might be different and the time starts when you cross the beam and there are no staging lights?? (not really sure how that works) But in this case, it would be a much more accurate time and have no bearing on when you put your foot on the gas (as said already)

there are 2 staging beams at the start line ...cross the first one and the pre-stage light goes on, come to just before the 2nd one and the stage light goes on. cross the 2nd staging beam and the clock starts for your elasped time (60', 1/8 ET, 1/8 MPH, 1000', 1/4 ET, 1/4 MPH).

your RT is only the time it takes from the green light on the tree to breaking the 2nd stage beam. your RT is generally only important if you're racing 'first to the finish' style. you could have a 1 minute RT and still run a 13.xx second quarter mile.

this is regardless of bracket racing or not.

[1flycdnM3]

ok you're right. I might have been reading it wrong because that does make sense to me now. Maybe because iv only done the "first to finish" style so im not familiar with anything else. I thought that was the whole point of a race, to see if you are faster than the other guy. Instead, now it's just creating a personal best and competing against your own best time. To each their own. My appologies.

[jspeed_3]

http://www.greerdragway.com/drag101.htm

.362 is nowhere near perfect! would of run better time if my R/T was perfect.

[1flycdnM3]

I was really used to .500 being the perfect RT but things have changed. The concept is the same though and .362 your first time out is nothing to shake your head at. You can't expect to be a professional, yet

[WhiteSpeed3]

i almost had a perfect R/T but i red lighted -0.01 then i miss shifted 3rd and the good run went to shit

[mleblond]

Pics from a flickr album I found
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steprod...474680/?page=3

[silvermist99]

those pics look so good. I should mod my camera more then my car.

[Fobio]

can't see flickr at work...will see them at home...

[Fobio]

cool pics...nice one of you silvermist!

and I didn't want to post it, but I took some rainbow pics too on the way home...

[silvermist99]

cool pics...nice one of you silvermist!

and I didn't want to post it, but I took some rainbow pics too on the way home...

we should have washed our cars lol. I like your shot better

who is this???
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steprod...7606697474680/


edit .. your sig is so outdated!

[mleblond]

we should have washed our cars lol. I like your shot better

who is this???
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steprod...7606697474680/

I don't think he is on the forum. He has the whole body kit on his car but never painted it.... it make the car look like shit IMO and pisses me off cause it makes it look as bad as a J-body POS....c'mon kid smart up! (hope he reads this)

/rant over

[SpeedBaby]

i think that guy is from the states, i've seen him @ cayuga a few times already

[silvermist99]

I don't think he is on the forum. He has the whole body kit on his car but never painted it.... it make the car look like shit IMO and pisses me off cause it makes it look as bad as a J-body POS....c'mon kid smart up! (hope he reads this)

/rant over

did you see the traffic jam he caused on the circuit lol... I like his rims it has big lip & many spokes.

i think that guy is from the states, i've seen him @ cayuga a few times already

I see this car in my neighborhood all the time (markham/scarborough border).. spotted him 5 times at least. Him or his kid goes to the same taekwondo school my little brother goes to.

[SpeedBaby]

ok, then i must be thinking of someone else

[maplephin]

Finally
Times are listed for Time Attack in August
http://cscs.ca/content/view/78/118/