Blown Engine. Now A NEW Engine :) (w/3 vid's)

[Dante]

ALRIGHTY,

Spoke to service manager frank at Erin Mills mazda, Provided all the oil changes EXCEPT the one receipt that's missing which is causing all of this damn fiasco and he himself told us that over 1 oil change a car should not be neglected. Now, they cannot add on later saying it was denied because of speeding either because on the service form it says "denied because of lack of maintenance"

If they pull a double jeopardy on me I'm going to laugh, On top of all of this, I printed out all of the threads including this one just incase and highlighted important details, I also printed out my letters to the Toronto Star and my local newspaper. As well as a future thread ill be posting here about erin mills service and Mazda of Canada. If all this fails I guess were just going to have to fork over the dough to pay the lawyer.. He's really confident and willing to start soon but I am doing everything i possibly can my self before pulling out the guns. ANY suggestions?

[3DEE]

Was the oil change really missed, or you just don't have the receipt?

[Dante]

no receipt

[b]

Since I started this thread... and you said you printed it off. Black out my name...

I wish you well. Hope you get it fixed. I know the pain you are going through. BS sometimes eh!

Frank is a very good guy! I am sure he'll try to make it happen for you.

[Dante]

Yeah, All names have been blacked out.

[b]

Yeah, All names have been blacked out.

Perfect thx.

Stick in there... If you have any questions about the process feel free to shoot me a pm.

[Dante]

Offtopic but this entire time your sig never caught my attention because im thinking its loading like my ipod touch -_- sub conscious thing really

[b]

^ ha ha.

So any updates? Any good news on your engine?

[Dante]

Well, service manager was supposed to call me back, obviously isnt SO i guess ill pop by surprise surprise and ask what the **** is going on.

[b]

Dante, whats the update? Haven't heard about your engine in a few weeks.

[alhope34]

5 People locally had blown engines? That's sick. I bought the 3 cause I thought they're made in Japan. I might as well have bought a Ford. And to think I contemplated the Impreza. Shit.

Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan. And for the record, Mazda has always sold engines/transmissions to Ford, NOT the other way around.

Another reason I did not look at getting another Mazda 3, their engines are just not reliable. Blowing up at 60XXX kms is just insane.

BMW's made in the USA (like the X3 and X5) are much less reliable than the Mazda 3. My friend worked at BMW for a while and would always see the same X3's and X5's in for electrical and/or transmission problems, and even all the mechanics he worked with said they had garbage build quality and in general were just horribly engineered vehicles. That buddy of mine is a BMW fanatic and doesn't even consider them real BMWs. However, BMW's made in Germany (like the 3 and 5 series) have pretty good reliability.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan. And for the record, Mazda has always sold engines/transmissions to Ford, NOT the other way around.

the 2.0 and 2.3 in the 3 are Ford Duratecs (originally used in the Focus) with a Ford block and Mazda-improved head.

BMW's made in the USA (like the X3 and X5) are much less reliable than the Mazda 3. My friend worked at BMW for a while and would always see the same X3's and X5's in for electrical and/or transmission problems, and even all the mechanics he worked with said they had garbage build quality and in general were just horribly engineered vehicles. That buddy of mine is a BMW fanatic and doesn't even consider them real BMWs. However, BMW's made in Germany (like the 3 and 5 series) have pretty good reliability.

the current X3 is made by Magna International in the Magna Steyr plant in Graz, Austria. it was never made in the USA. The next gen X3 will be moved to the USA.

[condor888000]

the 2.0 and 2.3 in the 3 are Ford Duratecs (originally used in the Focus) with a Ford block and Mazda-improved head.

From Wiki, not the best source, but something.

Ford Duratec 20 engine in a 2005 Ford Focus

Beginning in 2004, Ford dropped the old 4-cylinder Zetec engines in favor of Mazda's MZR design. Thus, 2005 and present Duratec 4-cylinder engines are Mazdas. This includes the 2.0 L Duratec 20 the 2.3 L Duratec 23 and the all new 2.5 L Duratec 25. The engine is currently built by Ford in Chihuahua, Mexico; Dearborn, Michigan; Valencia, Spain; Laguna, Philippines; and Nanjing, China.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratec_engine

[MajesticBlueNTO]

From Wiki, not the best source, but something.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratec_engine

what the article in wikipedia doesn't mention is that the duratec/mzr was a joint collaboration between Ford and Mazda.

up to a recent point in time, the MZR had exclusive variable valve timing and variable intake manifold, when compared to the Ford Duratec version; while both engines shared the same block.

long story short, the engine is not *entirely* a Mazda, since Ford did have a hand in its development...which was what I was trying to say when I quoted alhope's post.

[Swerny]

Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan.

I visited the Hiroshima factory in March 2008 and they weren't making 3's there.

2's, Miata's, RX8's,

[b]

the 2.0 and 2.3 in the 3 are Ford Duratecs (originally used in the Focus) with a Ford block and Mazda-improved head.

+ 1 our engines have Ford logo's stamped on them in multiple places .

[alhope34]

I visited the Hiroshima factory in March 2008 and they weren't making 3's there.

2's, Miata's, RX8's,

The packing slip I found in my car said it was made in Hiroshima. Also, I have seen several people on M3F mention that the Mazda 3's were made in Hiroshima. Maybe it's different for the regular 3's, but I am 100% sure my MS3 was made there.

And again, everything I've ever heard is Mazda designed the 2.0 and 2.3 MZR with Ford looking over their shoulders because they were going to stick the Mazda engines into their Focus. I trust what my uncle says about Ford more than anyone. For 6 years he's been the CAW union head for the Brampton plant until he retired at the end of last summer.

[condor888000]

I've heard that the 3 was built in Hiroshima as well, but this link says they're actually built in Hofo, which seems to be ~150km south west of Hiroshima.

what the article in wikipedia doesn't mention is that the duratec/mzr was a joint collaboration between Ford and Mazda.

up to a recent point in time, the MZR had exclusive variable valve timing and variable intake manifold, when compared to the Ford Duratec version; while both engines shared the same block.

long story short, the engine is not *entirely* a Mazda, since Ford did have a hand in its development...which was what I was trying to say when I quoted alhope's post.

I agree it was a joint collaboration, however your post made it seem like you were saying that they were an entirely Ford design that Mazda just took. Not quite. On the flip side I guess mine made it seem like I was saying it was an entirely Mazda engine Ford took. Boo misunderstandings.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

I agree it was a joint collaboration, however your post made it seem like you were saying that they were an entirely Ford design that Mazda just took. Not quite. On the flip side I guess mine made it seem like I was saying it was an entirely Mazda engine Ford took. Boo misunderstandings.

don't you love the internet and the million ways text-only conversations can be interpreted

[condor888000]

As a matter of fact, no.

[blackspeed3]

Mazda 3's are made in Hiroshima, Japan. And for the record, Mazda has always sold engines/transmissions to Ford, NOT the other way around.



BMW's made in the USA (like the X3 and X5) are much less reliable than the Mazda 3. My friend worked at BMW for a while and would always see the same X3's and X5's in for electrical and/or transmission problems, and even all the mechanics he worked with said they had garbage build quality and in general were just horribly engineered vehicles. That buddy of mine is a BMW fanatic and doesn't even consider them real BMWs. However, BMW's made in Germany (like the 3 and 5 series) have pretty good reliability.

Im not sure if the 09's are but the older Mazda 6 is not a Mazda engine. Its a Ford Duratec.