Not sure which direction to go

[n00bMeiSter]

It's a mazdaspeed3. There are no "headers". Again, you cannot compare the sound from Kiyomi's car to a speed.

Really?! It's a speed3?! Where would I be without you to point this stuff out for me.

Wow, get off my ass, I'm trying to give him an example of how loud it will be.

[loki]

Really?! It's a speed3?! Where would I be without you to point this stuff out for me.

Wow, get off my ass, I'm trying to give him an example of how loud it will be.

and I'm trying to tell you that your example is wrong.

[n00bMeiSter]

and I'm trying to tell you that your example is wrong.

Instead of being a dick and just saying "you're wrong", tell the person where they are wrong.

Have you listened to Snotrocket's exhaust? Kiyomi with his non-speed and corksport is almost as loud as snotrocket's exhaust, which is deafeningly loud.

either way, it doesn't change how loud the corksport exhaust is. especially with a race pipe.

[boyracer]

Thanks a lot guys.

I had a chat on the phone with one of the guys from Corksport... considering my budget, I'm going to start a catless racepipe and CBE, simply because I want the little power gain from the racepipe, and the sound of the CBE.

I'm also going to order the rims... I'm just not sold yet on what else to do, so I'm going to do that and save the rest of the $$$ for the spring and think on it over the winter.

Inspections, here in NB where I now live, they check that the cat is intact as per manfacturer specs supposedly... my mechanic however said, long as it looks like there is some kind of a cat installed they pass it.

I say that's a good idea. Take the winter to think it over.

[Fack_Dude]

Instead of being a dick and just saying "you're wrong", tell the person where they are wrong.

Have you listened to Snotrocket's exhaust? Kiyomi with his non-speed and corksport is almost as loud as snotrocket's exhaust, which is deafeningly loud.

either way, it doesn't change how loud the corksport exhaust is. especially with a race pipe.

Hey Noob,

You sure know a lot about the speed especially for someone who doesn't drive one............lol

[loki]

Instead of being a dick and just saying "you're wrong", tell the person where they are wrong.

Have you listened to Snotrocket's exhaust? Kiyomi with his non-speed and corksport is almost as loud as snotrocket's exhaust, which is deafeningly loud.

either way, it doesn't change how loud the corksport exhaust is. especially with a race pipe.

Don't read into my tone when I make a post. I'm just telling it as it is. But I will take you all the way back to August, where we already had a very similar conversation. Which MajesticBlueNTO answered that question before I had a chance to.

here is the thread.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...ht=#post810914

Instead of just jumping around from post to post, if you take the time to take in all the information, you might actually learn something and people wouldn't have to repeat themselves. No one is saying not to post in the mazdaspeed section but sometimes it's just distracting to the OP who obviously came here to learn something instead of being fed information which is inaccurate.

At the end of the day, you're the only person who's worked up.

Anyway, to give credit where credit is due, you mentioned Snotrocket's car. That was going to be the example I would have used, but you must keep in mind that his car has a full Ultimate Racing turbo back exhaust system (TBE) that is catless. Yes his car is loud (I stood 5 feet behind it during two 4th gear pulls at dyno day), however, I don't think that it is as loud as Kiyomi's car, and I've only heard his car since he's taken out the racepipe.

The OP did mention installing a racepipe along with the CBE but from his later posts, if he did change out the downpipe to the Cobb it seems like he'd be installing a catted version. Yes it'll be loud but it's not going to be as insane as you make it out to be.

I believe you've got it into your head that I am targeting you, or that I'm trying to put you down in every single one of my posts. Believe me, I'm not. So just relax.

Hey Noob,

You sure know a lot about the speed especially for someone who doesn't drive one............lol

let's play nice

[Kappa]

Hey Noob,

You sure know a lot about the speed especially for someone who doesn't drive one............lol

I know everything about the is 250 and 350 and i dont own one? i forgot about the rule that you cant know shit about a car if you dont own it..

anyway

Dave the turbo on the speed will quite down the exhaust a little... but not that much...

[loki]

I know everything about the is 250 and 350 and i dont own one? i forgot about the rule that you cant know shit about a car if you dont own it..

do you work at a toyota/lexus dealership?

[loki]

I had a chat on the phone with one of the guys from Corksport... considering my budget, I'm going to start a catless racepipe and CBE, simply because I want the little power gain from the racepipe, and the sound of the CBE.

The gain from the racepipe as you said would be little, but yeh it'll sound nice. Here's a question for you. If you're seriously considering the Cobb donwpipe, why not just hold off from buying the racepipe, since the Cobb dp will replace both of the factory cats anyway.

I know that the racepipes generally aren't very expensive, but when you do decide to upgrade the downpipe (since that is the real restriction), you'll have no use for the racepipe. I would factor in how soon in the future you'd be changing the downpipe to help decide if it's even worth buying the racepipe at all. I guess it all depends on where you want the car to end up performance wise.

Also, and hopefully someone with a GEN2 can chime in, I'm not sure how much you can really change without running the risk of running into fueling problems.

good luck, and happy modding.

[Kappa]

do you work at a toyota/lexus dealership?

nope i actually dont... anymore

[fywdyl]

The gain from the racepipe as you said would be little, but yeh it'll sound nice. Here's a question for you. If you're seriously considering the Cobb donwpipe, why not just hold off from buying the racepipe, since the Cobb dp will replace both of the factory cats anyway.

I know that the racepipes generally aren't very expensive, but when you do decide to upgrade the downpipe (since that is the real restriction), you'll have no use for the racepipe. I would factor in how soon in the future you'd be changing the downpipe to help decide if it's even worth buying the racepipe at all. I guess it all depends on where you want the car to end up performance wise.

Also, and hopefully someone with a GEN2 can chime in, I'm not sure how much you can really change without running the risk of running into fueling problems.

good luck, and happy modding.

This is according to COBB. If you're Stage 1 and under 17psi, then you don't need a fuel pump. If you're Stage 2 (removal of at least one of the cats) then you'll need a fuel pump. I ran into problems in the winter time when I just had the SRI+TIP and AP on a Stage 1 tune, so I think it depends on the car.

N00b, I don't think loki meant any harm. Most of the sound gets muffled by the turbo, so it's not really an apples to apples comparison when you compare an NA car vs a turbo car. However, snot's car is super loud and it's cuz he's got no cats at all.

I've heard that the CS CBE has drone in the cruising rpm, but those guys all have an aftermarket DP.

[VectorForFood]

My Gen1 Speed ran into fuelling issues with just the SRI and TIP alone, no other mods... but only when it was bitter cold -20C and below...

You guys have me all confuses now...

So I'm now thinking I'm going to order the Cobb Downpipe, plus the Corksport CBE.

Question however... if I do this I get a CEL right? (Is it possible to disable the light, not that I particularily want that)

Another... What exactly are you guys talking about fuel issues, is it going to be undriveable if I do those mods without doing more mods?

[loki]

My Gen1 Speed ran into fuelling issues with just the SRI and TIP alone, no other mods... but only when it was bitter cold -20C and below...

You guys have me all confuses now...

So I'm now thinking I'm going to order the Cobb Downpipe, plus the Corksport CBE.

Question however... if I do this I get a CEL right? (Is it possible to disable the light, not that I particularily want that)

Another... What exactly are you guys talking about fuel issues, is it going to be undriveable if I do those mods without doing more mods?

I'll let fywdyl answer this so there's less confusion. but it all has to do with the fuel pump and the fuel pressure.

[VectorForFood]

The gain from the racepipe as you said would be little, but yeh it'll sound nice. Here's a question for you. If you're seriously considering the Cobb donwpipe, why not just hold off from buying the racepipe, since the Cobb dp will replace both of the factory cats anyway.

I know that the racepipes generally aren't very expensive, but when you do decide to upgrade the downpipe (since that is the real restriction), you'll have no use for the racepipe. I would factor in how soon in the future you'd be changing the downpipe to help decide if it's even worth buying the racepipe at all. I guess it all depends on where you want the car to end up performance wise.

Also, and hopefully someone with a GEN2 can chime in, I'm not sure how much you can really change without running the risk of running into fueling problems.

good luck, and happy modding.

Thanks for the helpful advice.

Honestly, I've owned a Gen1, loved it, managed to end up in a Gen2 through a good deal and a long story... still see my modded Gen1 driving around town makes me sad.

HOWEVER, my Gen2 is not even a year old, I'm not sure with how young the car is how crazy I want to go with my modding just yet... the racepipe/CBE gives no CEL and generally no major issues, just a bit more power, and a nice sound (or at least it sounds like it on youtube)

I'll admit, I race this car very infrequently, that being said I plan on buying some track tires/wheels to run on next year for track days so having more power is a definate plus.

I really do like the head turning effect, I think a set of rims will help with that. I like the inquisitive looks this car gets from people.

Bottom line, I want an angry looking, angry sounding sleeper.... (Quote a friend made of my car already)

[VectorForFood]

Well... screw it, Im an impulse buyer... just ordered the racepipe (catless) and the CBE... also... anyone have opinion of these rims on a Black Gen2?

[loki]

I like your attitude. Those rims will look good. I'm a fan of the black on black. That's how my car is.

[Booostin]

Well... screw it, Im an impulse buyer... just ordered the racepipe (catless) and the CBE... also... anyone have opinion of these rims on a Black Gen2?

what kind of cbe?

[VectorForFood]

Corksport 80MM?

[n00bMeiSter]

Well... screw it, Im an impulse buyer... just ordered the racepipe (catless) and the CBE... also... anyone have opinion of these rims on a Black Gen2?

I've only seen these on white hatches lol but I'm sure these will look nice. What size did you get?

[VectorForFood]

Didn't order yet...

I just bought a set of 17" winter tires (IPikes) for my old 17" steel rims, but now someone offered me $350 for my steel rims with the old winter IceBears... SOOO

Im thinking on buying a set that are 17" for my winters, selling my OEM 18" wheels as well... then deciding on what to do for the summer come spring

[Booostin]

Corksport 80MM?

I thought cbe is cat back exhaust lol... thats what I was asking

[loki]

I thought cbe is cat back exhaust lol... thats what I was asking

CBE = Cat Back Exhaust

what exactly are you asking?

[VectorForFood]

I thought cbe is cat back exhaust lol... thats what I was asking

You asked "What kind of CBE"

So I assume you meant what brand... not sure how else I should have taken that question?

[VectorForFood]

Well update, the product isn't going to be shipped until the end of October... so more than likely I'll wait until Spring to put this stuff on... depends how I feel when it gets here... knowing me I'll say screw it put it on!

[Booostin]

You asked "What kind of CBE"

So I assume you meant what brand... not sure how else I should have taken that question?

That is what I meant... just wasnt sure why you put a question mark at the end of your answer lol