Metal Coaters (Powdercoating Rims)

[kjmckenz]

Looks like such a very thin layer..

Is it normally that thin of a layer? I have no idea about powdercoating.

[S.F.W.]

Curious to see what Taj says. It really looks like the surface was not prepared properly, and thus the powdercoat is not adhering.

[hit26k]

Looks like such a very thin layer..

Is it normally that thin of a layer? I have no idea about powdercoating.

It's supposed to be two layers of powder.


UPDATE:
So I just sent a few emails back and forth. Taj is willing to redo the rim. It's a matter of me now finding a spare rim and tire for a couple of days.

[Rob23]

wow that sucks. metal coaters better fix that..

[FoXy]

fail... how many times will ppl get shitty jobs before they go to quy... you really do get what you pay for. 2 years later and mine still look mint

[hit26k]

fail... how many times will ppl get shitty jobs before they go to quy... you really do get what you pay for. 2 years later and mine still look mint

That's why I did them for winters. Good thing these aren't my summer wheels. lol

[The Wolf]

hitesh that looks like plasti-dip :/

If you're not sandblasting, it seems like painting without priming. Preparation is the most important step in the process. Unfortunately, it looks like the chemical peel just doesn't cut it. Still, at less than half the price of Quy, it still might be possible to save $ by paying someone else to sandblast?

[hit26k]

hitesh that looks like plasti-dip :/

If you're not sandblasting, it seems like painting without priming. Preparation is the most important step in the process. Unfortunately, it looks like the chemical peel just doesn't cut it. Still, at less than half the price of Quy, it still might be possible to save $ by paying someone else to sandblast?

Now I'm debating to even go back to have it refinished by them. So confuzzled

[Default User]

Now I'm debating to even go back to have it refinished by them. So confuzzled

Didn't Taj say he'll redo it for free? For a $200 job and the "off-the-record" warranty, you WIN, bro.

Throw on the donut for the weekend.

fail... how many times will ppl get shitty jobs before they go to quy... you really do get what you pay for. 2 years later and mine still look mint

Ppl can to to MC and get their rims done 2-3 times an still be cheaper than Quys

[The Wolf]

He should e redoig all four, I would think.

[FoXy]

Ppl can to to MC and get their rims done 2-3 times an still be cheaper than Quys

So what? If the quality sucks then it will suck always... this dude is shady and just doesnt wanna do it right the first time. But like other peopla have said, you get what you pay for. If you want a shit job that might last a year or 2 then by all means... go to MC. If you want a legit job with a lifetime warrenty against chipping then go elsewhere and pay more. It's not THAT much more expensive.

[yearoftherat]

Isn't the chemical suppose to take off the original finish? It looks like its still there.

[The Wolf]

Could be the chemical peel was somehow accidentally skipped. That would make sense..

[hit26k]

Didn't Taj say he'll redo it for free? For a $200 job and the "off-the-record" warranty, you WIN, bro.

Throw on the donut for the weekend.

Ppl can go to MC and get their rims done 2-3 times an still be cheaper than Quys

Yes, he said he'll warranty the work. However, who's to say this won't happen again after another season or two? I don't want to go back if that's the case.

He should be redoing all four, I would think.

Won't happen.

So what? If the quality sucks then it will suck always... this dude is shady and just doesnt wanna do it right the first time. But like other peopla have said, you get what you pay for. If you want a shit job that might last a year or 2 then by all means... go to MC. If you want a legit job with a lifetime warrenty against chipping then go elsewhere and pay more. It's not THAT much more expensive.

I don't think Taj is shady. He's already admitted to a faulty job and that he warranties his work. Having said that, I do agree that you get what you pay for (at least in my case).

My concern lies with the durability of the job. What happens if my other rims start to chip/peel in another season? I'm not going back. Not worth the time and stress.

At this point, I've decided to just cover up the peeling with some gloss black vinyl I have in the house and will have the entire set redone by Quy in the spring.

Since this is a feedback thread, I don't want to sh*t on Metal Coaters all that much. Taj was quick with replying to my emails and is more than willing to fix his mistake. I just don't like the quality of the work which is why I will be taking my business somewhere else.

[p-o-g-i]

After reading some of the review here, now I'm hesitant to try out Metal Coaters.
I don't have the patience or time to back on this project if it starts to flake in a year or so (because I'm looking at painting the rims 2 different colors).

[ParsM3GT]

Whether you chemical strip or not, if the surface is not rough the paint won`t stick. I`d say the chemical strip only took off the clear coat, thats if they did chemical strip. I mean would you paint your car without sanding and priming first?

At the very least they should have taken some sandpaper to the surface before painting.

[terapr0]

as others have stated, preparation of the substrate is positively critical to a durable finish, be it paint, E-Coat, Powdercoat, whatever. The chemical peel they use isnt perfect, a fact reflected in their super low price. That being said, its not entirely useless either. If you spend a bit of time cleaning / sanding your rims BEFORE sending them to MC you could greatly increase the efficiency of their process. I'd thoroughly scuff them up with 150-200grit before sending them for the chemical dip. Spend a couple of hours working on the rims yourself. Any remaining clearcoat will negatively affect the adhesion of whatever coating you use. Sanding is pretty much a manual form of sand blasting - just takes a LOT more time and energy. Whatever you do to help the process along will pay off in spades later on.

$0.02

[Mike]

I'm getting a set of winter rims done right now. I'm hoping it's an isolated incident. Mistake happens, it's how you deal with them that's important. Assuming it's a mistake...
If it's a problem with it's process, than he will have to deal with the cost to fix it.
For the price he charges, I am willing to take the risk and deal with the consequences. It's just a winter set for me. If it lasts a couple winter, than I'll be confident to get my summer redone after that.

Thanks for the head's up thu. I now have lower expectation, so I won't be as disappointed if it starts peeling. Hoping for the best.

[aZuMi]

as others have stated, preparation of the substrate is positively critical to a durable finish, be it paint, E-Coat, Powdercoat, whatever. The chemical peel they use isnt perfect, a fact reflected in their super low price. That being said, its not entirely useless either. If you spend a bit of time cleaning / sanding your rims BEFORE sending them to MC you could greatly increase the efficiency of their process. I'd thoroughly scuff them up with 150-200grit before sending them for the chemical dip. Spend a couple of hours working on the rims yourself. Any remaining clearcoat will negatively affect the adhesion of whatever coating you use. Sanding is pretty much a manual form of sand blasting - just takes a LOT more time and energy. Whatever you do to help the process along will pay off in spades later on.

$0.02

Wow, that's not cool. If people are already paying the guy to powdercoat, having the trouble of separating tires/rims, and sending it for a couple of days..yet still have to spend a few hours sanding the rims. Doesn't it defeat the purpose of getting it done?

Lol, If that's the case, I'd rather pay swatsky to DIY my rims since his process includes sanding, prepping and painting. Caveat emptor, it might not be perfect and not the best quality - but the fact that swatsky sanded his rims down makes alot of difference in terms of longevity and the price is cheaper than MC.

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...nished-Product!

[Dave_The_BMXER]

I've got a friend who does Powdercoating if people are looking for a third option






Can be reached at jp@16sixty.ca

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Str...61582327241737

[MPS]

wow just saw this on FB sad !

Isn't the chemical suppose to take off the original finish? It looks like its still there.

[terapr0]

I'm pretty certain Quy sand blasts the rims, which takes longer and costs more than a chemical peel, hence the difference in price. As most peoples time is worth less than that of a professional shop its probably more cost effective for the budget minded consumer to do a bit of the prep work themselves. The actual powdercoating process will be nearly identical between any given shop - its the prep work and attention to detail that sets them apart. Quy and other more expensive shops will spend more time preparing the pieces for coating than a less expensive place like MC.

Wow, that's not cool. If people are already paying the guy to powdercoat, having the trouble of separating tires/rims, and sending it for a couple of days..yet still have to spend a few hours sanding the rims. Doesn't it defeat the purpose of getting it done?
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...nished-Product!

[Kiyomi]

I'm pretty certain Quy sand blasts the rims, which takes longer and costs more than a chemical peel, hence the difference in price. As most peoples time is worth less than that of a professional shop its probably more cost effective for the budget minded consumer to do a bit of the prep work themselves. The actual powdercoating process will be nearly identical between any given shop - its the prep work and attention to detail that sets them apart. Quy and other more expensive shops will spend more time preparing the pieces for coating than a less expensive place like MC.

+1

[aZuMi]

I'm pretty certain Quy sand blasts the rims, which takes longer and costs more than a chemical peel, hence the difference in price. As most peoples time is worth less than that of a professional shop its probably more cost effective for the budget minded consumer to do a bit of the prep work themselves. The actual powdercoating process will be nearly identical between any given shop - its the prep work and attention to detail that sets them apart. Quy and other more expensive shops will spend more time preparing the pieces for coating than a less expensive place like MC.

Completely agree. Quy's definitely known for quality. I was just talking about MC comparison to a DIY job.

[boyracer]

I just had my rims done, they were first sand blasted and Powdercoated all for $280 here in Mississauga. I got a chance to look at the finished product and am very happy. I don't want to hijack the thread, but there are other options out there, just gotta look.