Time To Go Forged

[BlueStreak]

Thanks, Jerry :)
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Installed my catted/venturi'd racepipe tonight then took the car out for a spin. The car got marginally louder but its still acceptable with the stock catback.

After the engine warmed up, I decided to give it some juice. In 3rd gear, the car accelerates like its posessed by a demon. Good god its fast. 4th is meh. There's something up with the tune as it doesn't reach boost targets as quickly as in the other gears; I'll have to isolate that issue.

When I got home, I popped the hood and noticed some light smoking coming from the turbo CHRA area. I'll inspect it tomorrow once the engine is cool to see what's up.

The engine is right around 700KMs now.

[rzapata]

Wow, nicely done Dave!! If that's how the car is on third, I can't imagine first and second... :) Must be Diablo! Hehe! :chuckle

Goof luck on the smoke. I hope it's nothin major.


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[BlueStreak]

I turned things up now that I have t-bolt clamps throughout. So far, I'm managing to hit 26PSI by 3200RPMs. There's still a TON of tuning to go and I'll start posting datalogs as soon as they're noteworthy.

One thing I'm not very satisfied with is the blow through setup. The MAF is mounted right after the intercooler and before the TB leaving very little room for the air to expand. This leads to AFRs being quite wonky; often shifting .3-.4 units richer as boost holds steady.

I'm going to keep this setup throughout the winter and will address another blow-through next spring. I already have something in mind.

[loki]

26 psi at 3200 rpm must feel pretty damn good

[rzapata]

DSC must be going crazy huh? I'm stock tuned, and I can't even push the damn 1st gear to the max without dsc going crazy on me. :chuckle

[BlueStreak]

26 psi at 3200 rpm must feel pretty damn good

It's okay :P


DSC must be going crazy huh? I'm stock tuned, and I can't even push the damn 1st gear to the max without dsc going crazy on me. :chuckle

1st, 2nd and 3rd are useless under WOT. 4th hooks up. I don't know if it'll continue to hold once I start adding timing and meth. We'll see.

[AlphaMotorsports.ca]

Not sure if you've mentioned this, just curious to how much of an overbore you went with when you were machining the block?


1st, 2nd and 3rd are useless under WOT. 4th hooks up. I don't know if it'll continue to hold once I start adding timing and meth. We'll see.

Once you add timing and meth, you can call it the Tire Melter map. Lol. good thing for gear based tuning

[BlueStreak]

Not sure if you've mentioned this, just curious to how much of an overbore you went with when you were machining the block?

20 over bore.

Once you add timing and meth, you can call it the Tire Melter map. Lol. good thing for gear based tuning
Amen. 26PSI would be hard to manage in 1st. Haha.

[CelestSpeed3]

Just for fun, we should try my RPF1's with the 255 RS-3's on your front axle and see if they can hold the torque. :)

Once they are warmed up I can't even spin the tires anymore.

[loki]

Just for fun, we should try my RPF1's with the 255 RS-3's on your front axle and see if they can hold the torque. :)

Once they are warmed up I can't even spin the tires anymore.

this would be interesting

[CelestSpeed3]

I don't mind sacrificing some rubber for the cause.

[Thrizzl3]

I don't mind sacrificing some rubber for the cause.

those tires grip like crazy...lol

[BlueStreak]

Maaannnn, I don't even know if I can fit those on my car. Your Gen2 is slightly wider than my Gen1. Would be good to test fit them on all four corners since I want the biggest tire I can manage for time attack :)
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*UPDATE*

Jerry (-cj-) came over yesterday and helped me perform another compression test. The last one I did was in a hurry and on my own leaving me to guess when I thought the gauge reached max PSI.

Onto the numbers. In order of cylinders (1 to 4)
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6044/6350784594_698d9f0a6d.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6110/6350038463_f42ac36934.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6212/6350782426_b6995b3c40.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6033/6350781410_64051be441.jpg

190PSI across the board. Cylinder 1's photo looks below 190; the camera wasn't held straight on.

The engine is running strong. Awesome.

Other things:
- The engine is at 1020KMs since the rebuild. The oil will be changed soon.
- Was getting spark blowout at .026" so I swapped in a set of 1 steps at .024" (I had 2 steps at .026" prior).
- I streamlined boost to hit 25PSI at 3500RPM as opposed to 26PSI at 3200RPM. Such aggressive boost at low RPM wasn't necessary IMO.
- Managed 25PSI across the board with WGDC ending in the high 70s, low 80s. Looks like the ATP hotside is big enough :)
- Flowing ~360g/s at 6300-6400RPMs.
- BATS get stinkin hot after 6700RPMS as the engine races to 7K RPMS. I'll be dropping my redline to 6700 until further notice.
- Timing is still super conservative at 12* by 6700. I'll walk it up slowly over several maps.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Maaannnn, I don't even know if I can fit those on my car. Your Gen2 is slightly wider than my Gen1. Would be good to test fit them on all four corners since I want the biggest tire I can manage for time attack :)
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my track rims are 17x8 +40 with nt01 245 (closer to a 255) and it doesn't rub the fronts. take Celest up on the offer, the amb temps aren't gonna be warm much longer ;)

[Darkice]

wowww this is a sweet build , i cant wait to see it in person hopefully , u gotta post a vid of the start up , good job man!

[BlueStreak]

my track rims are 17x8 +40 with nt01 245 (closer to a 255) and it doesn't rub the fronts. take Celest up on the offer, the amb temps aren't gonna be warm much longer ;)

I need to finish rolling my fenders. The damn rears are catching on my 235/40/18 NT05s. I don't want to mess up Paul's sweet setup. Good to know that setup fits on your Gen1 though :)


wowww this is a sweet build , i cant wait to see it in person hopefully , u gotta post a vid of the start up , good job man!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLV5njCZxLk :)

[CelestSpeed3]

The setup i bought fit the gen1's which is why i bought it. It's the widest setup possible on the 3 chassis before you need to start adding metal.

[BlueStreak]

Ah awesome. I'll finish rolling my fenders this weekend ;-)


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[BlueStreak]

Here's a very crude VD plot. Still lots of work to do.

Note: The pull starts at 4K RPMs with boost gradually increasing from the start. AFRs jump around quite a bit which I'll address next year with a better blow through setup. In the mean time, meth is keeping things quiet.

It also looks like I'm going downhill with the increase in TQ towards redline. I wasn't. A better timing curve should fix it.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6218/6378352777_8169f6ac5a_b.jpg

EDIT: The best info you can derive from this plot is the peak HP number which in itself isn't a big deal. I need a bit more time.

[CelestSpeed3]

Why does VD only show +4000rpm? It does this on mine too, I'm assuming it's looking for WOT.

Great numbers btw, but how does the car feel?

[BlueStreak]

That was my fault. I only went WOT at 4K RPMs for this log. In other words, I goofed. Haha.

Your VD plots probably only begin at 4K RPM because that is the point where your throttle is fully open. Virtual Dyno only starts plotting the graph when the throttle reads 75%+.

The car feels quick, no doubt. You get pushed into the seat quite hard as it scoots to redline. There's still alot more left in it though.

[CelestSpeed3]

Would you say the biggest gains were from the head work alone?

I figure the forged bottom end is more like the insurance part of it.

[BlueStreak]

Yep, the headwork did wonders.

I noticed an increase of ~35g/s at 22PSI when compared to 22PSI prior to the port and polish job. That's huge.

[CelestSpeed3]

I saw something on the road today that reminded me of this thread.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6225/6387402593_9bce745660_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7024/6387402235_e7bdd9e8d9_b.jpg

I wonder what it was . . . . .

[BlueStreak]

That is some badass depth of field.


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[CelestSpeed3]

Primes FTW

[BlueStreak]

I will begin assembling the new motor on Monday. If you guys want to come by at 830-9pm to have a look and shoot the shit, you're welcome to.

I'll just be a little anti-social as I have to pay attention to what I'm doing.

[breakfasteatre]

See you then :)

[loki]

I will swing by

doesn anyone have the gear to do a boost leak test? I want to make sure everything is in order...Alex didn't you have the stuff?

[BlueStreak]

I haz.


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[breakfasteatre]

A cigarette and a bike pump. heh

[loki]

ok I'm gonna swing by around 8 30pm

who else is coming?

[Mr Wilson]

I'll stop by for sure. Need an excuse to put some km on the car with the IC in. Where am I going?

[loki]

I'll stop by for sure. Need an excuse to put some km on the car with the IC in. Where am I going?

I'm not gonna post Dave's address here. I'll let him do that if he wants.

Sent you a PM with the address.

[BlueStreak]

Thanks Chris.

[BlueStreak]

Just got off the phone with Competition Automotive. The engine won't be ready until tomorrow. They haven't file fit the rings yet.

Blah.

So, let's push back everything by a day :)

[loki]

Sounds good

[BlueStreak]

*MINI UPDATE*

It's been a while since I provided an update. One of the reasons was dealing with a gremlin that I managed to take care of on Friday. I didn't want to post it since I didn't want a back-and-forth of "I think it's this" and "I solved it" followed by "wait, that's not it" etc.

Long story short, the engine had some massive mmmmmmassive blowout problems and it took a while to figure out the fix. Because of the cold weather, I was experiencing 90*F BATs prior to meth being sprayed (I can't measure the BAT drop). Throwing meth on top would further lower it to the point that the plugs could not ignite the mix.

The remedy was to go back to stock heat plugs with a .022" gap and get the engine piping hot. If I don't get the engine hot enough, it still misfires due to the super low temperatures. Once I warm the car up to 1600*F+ EGTs, it screams. If this was a nice summer day in the 20*C range, I wouldn't have this issue.

At any rate, let the tuning continue.

tl:dr. Drive car hard for things to run properly in the cold.

[Mr Wilson]

Boo-urns, sadly I'm out for tomorrow. Have fun regardless.

[breakfasteatre]

Yeah me too. might drop by later if i finish dinner at a reasonable time

[CelestSpeed3]

I'm in for tomorrow night if this is still going on.

[loki]

I'm in for tomorrow night if this is still going on.

I'll be there

[BlueStreak]

I'm heading over to pick up the engine.

See you guys later.

[loki]

I'll be there around 9pm or a little after.

see you then

[Mr Wilson]

#7 is the orange juice container fix

Clicky (http://jalopnik.com/5857841/the-ten-most-macgyver+like-car-hacks/gallery/1?tag=answers-of-the-day)

[BlueStreak]

Haha. Makes me think of the movie MacGruber.

Alright gents. Today is the second and final day of the motor assembly. Come by if you want to have a look/shoot the $hit.

[CelestSpeed3]

What time are you starting?

[loki]

can't make it tonight.

3 reasons....M W 3

might open that and see if it's any good.


good luck!

[CelestSpeed3]

Here are some photos from Tuesday night.


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7019/6438990193_128ceed8fa_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6438990613_06c4337825_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7157/6438991069_329b6dc7ed_b.jpg

I'm going to try and come by tonight with Mcguyver.

[CelestSpeed3]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7022/6438988771_11309ce3cc_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6438989283_1c9e384ddb_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6438988167_0d276d7eaf_b.jpg

[BlueStreak]

My god that camera takes nice pictures.


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[BlueStreak]

Thread revival update!

Alright. I've moved, gone on vacation, celebrated Christmas and got hammered on New Years. Back on the saddle.

Plans have already been set in motion to modify the intake tract. The new setup should be ready in 2 weeks or so. Reverting back to a pull through setup to keep the L2A config nice and compact would be the best route but a) I like VTA because ricecar and b) I'll be damned if I can't get this to work in a super tight package. So, blow through it will remain.

As it stands, my best VD dyno plot is the one I posted back in November at ~390whp (Dynojet). That was at 12* peak timing; there's more left in the bag and I will easily break 400whp with my 3071.

In the mean time, I've been watching the AccessPORT like a hawk, datalogging many parameters and just monitoring different PIDs over the course of many trips. One anomaly I noticed was with the Bosch 3BAR map sensor. Here's the datalog.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6641658653_27c5e378bd_b.jpg

Comparing IATs to BATs, you'll notice an approximate 18*F difference in temperature readings. My current blow through setup has the MAF mounted about 3 inches from the throttle body and there is no way there should be that much of a difference (if any) between both sensors as the air will have traveled approximately 8 inches from one sensor to the other. My guess is that the temperature pickup on the MAP sensor needs some sort of calibration in ATR for it to read properly.

If you're not running meth OR you have a direct port setup like mine, this discrepancy becomes quite material and will affect your tune; one of which is Ignition vs. BATs. In my case, spraying meth after the MAP sensor does not affect BAT readings and the *artificially* high BATs are compounded by the error in the MAP sensor temperature readings. You will need to alter the values in the Ignition vs. BATs tables to properly compensate for this error or you'll never reach your spark advance targets.

[loki]

Reverting back to a pull through setup to keep the L2A config nice and compact would be the best route but a) I like VTA because ricecar and b) I'll be damned if I can't get this to work in a super tight package. So, blow through it will remain.


typo?

[BlueStreak]

Done on purpose :P

VTA is rice to the hardcore enthusiasts.

[loki]

Done on purpose :P

VTA is rice to the hardcore enthusiasts.

I figured it was on purpose

gave me a good chuckle, rice or not, you know you LOVE IT!

[BlueStreak]

Gives me wood and gets me ladies.

[CelestSpeed3]

have you considered moving the BAT sensor. I was reading about a throttle spacer that put the BAT sensor right behind the throttle body. This might be worth looking into if that's the problem you are having.

[BlueStreak]

I think the issue is with the BAT sensor temp calibration itself. Next time, before I start the car for the day, I'll look at the IATs and compare them to BATs. If BATs are hotter with a stone cold engine, the sensor is off.

[Polish_Eagle]

I think the issue is with the BAT sensor temp calibration itself. Next time, before I start the car for the day, I'll look at the IATs and compare them to BATs. If BATs are hotter with a stone cold engine, the sensor is off.

Did your BAT sensor not come with a datasheet specifying the voltage vs. temperature curve so you can interpolate them into ATR? Most sensors usually provide you 3 -> 5 points and then you can use excel or math skills to determine the voltage vs. temp for different points.

[CelestSpeed3]

I think he is using the OEM sensor.

[BlueStreak]

Did your BAT sensor not come with a datasheet specifying the voltage vs. temperature curve so you can interpolate them into ATR? Most sensors usually provide you 3 -> 5 points and then you can use excel or math skills to determine the voltage vs. temp for different points.

The scalars were provided by a forum member on MSF. The boost is bang on with my gauge but the temp readings are off.


I think he is using the OEM sensor.
No sir. 3BAR Bosch sensor with built in temp sensor.

[CelestSpeed3]

My bad, I knew you upgraded the MAP sensor I didn't realize the BAT sensor was part of it.

[BlueStreak]

No worries.


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[loki]

he wants to do some bench testing on your MAP sensor so that he can compare it to stock, then run a full diagnostic, then in the end just NATOR it....

[BlueStreak]

Alright Gents,

Spent some time today mocking up my new L2A intercooler setup with Paul (CelestSpeed3). Like I mentioned earlier, it will still be blow through but will be better built to allow the MAF to properly meter airflow.

I'm waiting on a new MAF flange to weld onto the 3.5" pipe section to finish things off.

Pr0n...
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6698276409_06ac5dd026_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6698273509_673e252f21_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7173/6698279467_055dd7c60f_z.jpg

[CelestSpeed3]

Thanks for letting me help out Dave. :)

[BlueStreak]

I've been a little silent on the forums lately because I've been working on something neat (scroll down).

In the mean time, the MAF relocate/intake piece is still at Competition Automotive. They've been really busy as of late and hadn't had a chance to get to my item. I should probably head over to yell/beg/give blowies to speed things up.

Anyways, the reason for my absence is the following:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6797061021_1f42b23470_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6797066565_6277ebf1b6_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6797063049_152c017913_z.jpg

Yes, it looks like it came right out of the 70s but it's a prototype so it has to look like crap. I already have something in mind for the second version of the prototype that will include a much much sleeker form factor. I suspect it'll be ready by the 3rd iteration for "public release". Suffice it to say that every Speed should be running this thing when its done. ;)

No, I won't tell you what it does. Not yet... :cool:

[cSPEED]

Damn Dave, you should have been an MS3 engineer..

Also I find it funny that you've pretty much changed everything in the engine bay including forging the engine but you have stayed true to the OEM hood support, haha.

[BlueStreak]

Also I find it funny that you've pretty much changed everything in the engine bay including forging the engine but you have stayed true to the OEM hood support, haha.

Not always. I sometimes NATOR it. Haha.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6186/6117394572_74ca36d217_b.jpg

[breakfasteatre]

yeah, jesus christ you could have had like 2 more HP with shock hood lifts, VITAL

nice breadboard

[rzapata]

Oh damn, this is gonna be awesome. That computer thing's nice. EBC, AP and all electronics combined???? :)

[loki]

Oh damn, this is gonna be awesome. That computer thing's nice. EBC, AP and all electronics combined???? :)

its a computer device that correlates how much HP his car is pushing to how much ***** he's gonna get, then it plots a graph.

very useful if you ask me

[breakfasteatre]

that shit is exponential FO SHO

[rzapata]

its a computer device that correlates how much HP his car is pushing to how much ***** he's gonna get, then it plots a graph.

very useful if you ask me

:chuckle Looks like a :winner :winner situation for Mr. Dave.

[bubba1983]

what size is that piping in the engine bay geez its as big as the stuff transports use....

[CelestSpeed3]

3.5"

[-cj-]

Dave's obviously building a time machine out of a Del^H^H^HMazdaspeed 3.

[BlueStreak]

Finally, the last intake piece is ready. Here it is.

If you go back a few posts, you will see the new L2A piping layout I will be running. This piece replaces the large one running from the passenger to the driver side and into the intercooler.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6853679437_9ed55a4115_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7001/6853676543_b8681367cf_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6853674131_e732903101_z.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/6853672039_37e795b3f7_z.jpg

I will be installing this a week from tomorrow and will begin/continue (however you want to put it) tuning for real power in March when I return from vacation.

[CelestSpeed3]

Just out of curiosity, have you boost tested the connection at the tek screws holding in the straightener. I have a feeling those will cause you some problems.

It has been my experience that the galvanized finish on the tek screws and aluminum won't like being friends for too long and will work themselves loose with the thermal changes of the pipe. I would suggest drilling out the holes to 1/8" and inserting an aluminum dowel.

[BlueStreak]

I havent boost tested anything. I'll likely seal them with some epoxy so it shouldn't be a problem.

[CelestSpeed3]

That's much easier than what I was thinking. Find some aluminum JB weld or something.

[BlueStreak]

JB weld works too. A much more permanent solution. We'll figure it out next week :-p

[CelestSpeed3]

What time are we starting next week?

It looks like I'll still have a job so I'll be going to Dixie Mall to cut the power for 6:30pm.

[BlueStreak]

Saturday morning. You'll be busy then?

[CelestSpeed3]

Saturday morning is fine. We just have to be done by 5:00pm so I can prep my tools and gear for work.

[BlueStreak]

Cool.

So you can't make it to Chris' then?

[CelestSpeed3]

No I'm going to work instead. If I didn't have such slow weeks I would say screw it.

[BlueStreak]

Cool.

Time to get the pièce de résistance in the car so I can continue making power and slap you all with my puny 3071R. I'll run 30PSI if I have to.

[CelestSpeed3]

I'm sure you won't have too.

Secretly Vince is going to Heman bitch slap us all with an EFR.

[BlueStreak]

I think we all stand a legitimate chance at seeing a unicorn flying a UFO before the EFR kit is released.

[CelestSpeed3]

Doesn't mean its not going to happen.

[BlueStreak]

After a series of unfortunate events, I was unable to do the work I had planned on my car at my house. In short, the garage wasn't available. This turned out well since the work went down at Paul's house. He has e.v.e.r.y. tool imaginable. Made life easier when custom pieces needed to be fabbed.

So, first thing was first. We re-timed my motor. The cams were juuuuussttt a little bit off but it was enough that it bothered me every time I drove the car. I doubt that it affected driveability but the fact that it wasn't perfect drove me crazy to no end. The task involved removing the timing cover, loosening the serpentine belt, setting the engine at TDC, removing the crank pulley bolt, aligning the cams then buttoning everything back up. Timing the motor is much easier with it in the car than on the engine stand as the transmission and brakes come in handy to lock the crank in place.

Then onto the new intake setup. It was pretty straight forward since everything was mocked up previously.

The MAF lines also needed to be extended by about 8" to reach its new position. This is the end result:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7204/6903961017_76587e153b_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7059/6903964749_5268163dfc_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6903967941_367205a914_b.jpg
Apologies for the dirty engine bay. Its hard to keep things clean in the winter.

The MAF was scaled by +54% then we went out for a spin. Paul drove while I stared at ATR monitoring AFRs/KR/LTFTs/STFTs etc. Everything worked flawlessly. MAF voltage is by far steadier than the previous setup at idle, cruising and WOT. This is a winning setup and the car is now ready to make big power. I fully expect to pass 400whp without a hitch. I'm coming after you Derek! Haha.

For the one person who came in this build thread and proceeded to crap on my blow through setup, here's the tip of the iceberg of a) it works and b) your infinite wisdom sucks a bag of dicks. Don't talk down to me. Ever.

EDIT: Another thing to note is the positioning and the orientation of the VTA BOV. It is extremely LOUD inside the car.

[SomeGuy]

LoL that cone filter looks like it has seen better days :P

Glad to hear the new setup is working well though.

[BlueStreak]

LoL that cone filter looks like it has seen better days :P

Glad to hear the new setup is working well though.

It'll be replaced with a nice AEM unit soon :)

[Mr Wilson]

Looks awesome!

Ever thought about reloacting the battery for more room?

[BlueStreak]

Looks awesome!

Ever thought about reloacting the battery for more room?

Ideas have been tossed around. It wouldn't be relocated for more room for existing parts though. It would be for something in addition to what you see there. Stay tuned ;)

[Darkice]

that looks so nice omg :') lol how much hp do u get ?

[CelestSpeed3]

+250whp over stock

[BlueStreak]

that looks so nice omg :') lol how much hp do u get ?

The only way intakes make more power are by a) being less restrictive or b) sourcing cooler air. If you look at the location of my filter, the positioning never changed from the different liquid to air setups.

In this instance, I changed my intake tract which has no effect on making more/less power; it just affects how much power the car can "see" and ultimately make.

[Fobio]

That engine bay makes me jelly...

EDIT: Post a clip of that BOV!

[-cj-]

For the one person who came in this build thread and proceeded to crap on my blow through setup, here's the tip of the iceberg of a) it works and b) your infinite wisdom sucks a bag of dicks. Don't talk down to me. Ever.

Hahah... That's awesome. Show 'em how it's done!!

Glad to see the beast is ready for the next level. I can't believe you let Paul drive your car, after all the horror stories about his 6....

[rzapata]

Looks awesome Dave! Glad things worked out well. :) When you get a chance (if there's time, that is), post up some video/sound clips of the beast. Would love to hear it scream. :thumbsup

PS: Those are some big *** pipes! :chuckle

[BlueStreak]

That engine bay makes me jelly...

EDIT: Post a clip of that BOV!

I'll just rev my car on my driveway and I'm pretty sure you'll hear it at your place. Haha.

I'll post vids when I get back.


Hahah... That's awesome. Show 'em how it's done!!

Glad to see the beast is ready for the next level. I can't believe you let Paul drive your car, after all the horror stories about his 6....

Yeah, I think the motor wanted to seppuku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku) itself when it detected a foreign person behind the wheel :P


Looks awesome Dave! Glad things worked out well. :) When you get a chance (if there's time, that is), post up some video/sound clips of the beast. Would love to hear it scream. :thumbsup

PS: Those are some big *** pipes! :chuckle

You got it. I'll get a few when I come back.

[Thrizzl3]

It was fun workin on your car Dave even though all I did was press the brakes. And ya your bov is hella loud lol

[BlueStreak]

It was fun workin on your car Dave even though all I did was press the brakes. And ya your bov is hella loud lol

Couldn't have done it without you, Phil :)

[Fack_Dude]

Bring it on bitchhhh :P lol Just remember there is still room for power since pry bar incident.

[BlueStreak]

Bring it on bitchhhh :P lol Just remember there is still room for power since pry bar incident.

I'll have to search my engine bay for a pry bar too. I'm pretty sure there's one holding me back as well. :chuckle

Want to see a GT3071R run 30PSI of boost!? It's gonna happen, man! The fight is on!

[Fack_Dude]

[QUOTE=BlueStreak;892825]I'll have to search my engine bay for a pry bar too. I'm pretty sure there's one holding me back as well. :chuckle

Want to see a GT3071R run 30PSI of boost!? It's gonna happen, man! The fight is on![/Q
You wanna see a a gtx3076 on 30 psi of boost? Lol

[BlueStreak]

Haha. Damn.

Shouldn't have recommended that upgraded MAP sensor.

[Fack_Dude]

Hey slowstreak. Im running fast today. What about you? Lol

[Fack_Dude]

Hey slowstreak. Im running fast today. What about you? Lol

By the way. I guess im officially the first one to make 400hp in the gta eh slowstreak..lol

[BlueStreak]

Don't worry fast_dud, I'll be breezing past that without breaking a sweat when I get back ;-)

[Booter22]

after all your internals are fully built and hes on a stock block right? theres going to be something to say how long you run at higher hp and how long he will run without any failures.

[BlueStreak]

That is correct.

Reduced life expectancy of the engine is part of playing the game. Haha.

[Booter22]

whats your car running at hp wise? is there going to be any dynos posted and videos? would be interesting to see / hear what it sounds like and how it moves

[BlueStreak]

whats your car running at hp wise? is there going to be any dynos posted and videos? would be interesting to see / hear what it sounds like and how it moves

The car is currently detuned so its at most 300whp at the moment. Before I left on vacation, I installed the latest intake revision and the car responded well. Unfortunately, I didn't get around to much more than that. I will commence tuning upon my return next week. Once the car is fully tuned, it will easily manage 400-430whp.

I'll post videos and dyno plots as soon as I get them. I'm looking to get the car dynoed at the big NATOR Mazda meet in New Jersey in April.

[Booter22]

The car is currently detuned so its at most 300whp at the moment. Before I left on vacation, I installed the latest intake revision and the car responded well. Unfortunately, I didn't get around to much more than that. I will commence tuning upon my return next week. Once the car is fully tuned, it will easily manage 400-430whp.

I'll post videos and dyno plots as soon as I get them. I'm looking to get the car dynoed at the big NATOR Mazda meet in New Jersey in April.

thats awesome! i bet she sure moves, cant wait to see it all fully set up. hopefully at some of the meets this year for sure. i thought the NATOR meet in Jersey was cancelled, but it will be interesting to see the numbers for every one when you guys come back.

[Fack_Dude]

Hey Slowstreak,

Was that you, who I saw driving down Woodbine and 7 tonight? By the way, the car looked slow as usual. Laterzzzzz

[BlueStreak]

No way fast_dud. I have a VTA blow off valve. My car is legit quick.

[BlueStreak]

I'm coming after you fast_dud.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7192/6811815422_e07508d439_b.jpg

[CelestSpeed3]

Looks like the new Maf setup is working nicely.

[Thrizzl3]

i smell revenge...i literally did after i was driving behind dave's car :P

[BlueStreak]

Looks like the new Maf setup is working nicely.

Yessir yessir. BAT drop pre to post intercooler is 80*F. Huge.

I'm going to put my 5th meth nozzle pre intercooler. It'll cool BATs AND the core. ;)


i smell revenge...i literally did after i was driving behind dave's car :P

Uggghhhh. I need to get it to stop doing that.

[CelestSpeed3]

Re-locate the venturi before the cat and the smell will be gone.

[Fobio]

dave...you should get one of these and hook it up to your rear wiper. just sayin'

http://www.themeparkshopper.com/catalog/mickey_gloves.jpg

[loki]

See you guys at Whitby Mazda tomorrow

nATOR represent

[BlueStreak]

Re-locate the venturi before the cat and the smell will be gone.

It'll kill the cat over time. Bah


dave...you should get one of these and hook it up to your rear wiper. just sayin'

http://www.themeparkshopper.com/catalog/mickey_gloves.jpg

I need one of these in my car. Then my build will be complete.

http://www.elmopictures.net/Elmo-Doll.jpg

[loki]

The day you put an Elmo in your car................

[CelestSpeed3]

I don't think so, your catch can will filter out the oil vapour.

[BlueStreak]

The day you put an Elmo in your car................

I asked for one on Christmas. Nothing.

It WILL happen. Then there will be an MSpeed group buy on Elmo dolls because its so badass.

[Fobio]

I need one of these in my car. Then my build will be complete.

the glove is for waving at fast_dude as you pass him...lol...

I think I'll do a group buy on all MSpeed cars...j/k guys on the GB...

[BlueStreak]

Hahahahaha!

[BlueStreak]

Mini update.

I check my oil level everytime I take the car out for the day. Well, yesterday, it seems that I didn't seat the dipstick OR I boosted before the motor warmed up enough for the pistons to seal properly and created excessive blowby and shot out the dipstick.

The end result was oil all over the engine bay. It managed to make its way to the manifold and created a wicked smoke show in traffic. Thank god this baby didn't catch fire. Ugh.

Also located a sizeable exhaust leak around the manifold. This will be fixed tomorrow. Tuning updates will follow later in the week.

[loki]

how did you identify the exhaust leak?

I need to check mine for leaks.

soap and water?

[fywdyl]

how did you identify the exhaust leak?

I need to check mine for leaks.

soap and water?

You of all ppl should have the most experience with this one...
Put your nose/face right up to the CAT and then fire the car up.

[Mr Wilson]

Should just install his BT and the problem will hopefully be fixed ;)

[BlueStreak]

I saw mine by letting the car idle for a good while then staring just above the exhaust manifold. You could see haziness coming from the area.

[BlueStreak]

Spent a solid 4 hours at NATOR North today going through the car. Paul changed my oil (I paid him. I will never handle car fluids again. Swapping motors turned me off from that shit. F**k... Anyways....) while I sat back and did nothing. Haha.

Then onto the exhaust leak. About two nights ago, I recalled that I clocked the turbo differently way back when I was forging the motor. I had a suspicion that the leak was coming from where the CHRA mated with the turbine side of the turbo. Lo and behold, one of the bolts weren't fully tightened. We ground down one of my open end wrenches on NATOR North's grinder to get into the really tight areas and went to town.

After all was said and done, we fired up the car and let it idle for a good 10 minutes. No reeking smell of exhaust emanating from the engine bay. If you guys recall, driving behind me was like walking through a cloud of gasoline. That was no more. This was a good sign.

On the drive home, the car simply felt livlier. Another good sign. I decided to take the car on the highway to see what it would do. One of the issues I also had was the car would tend to break up at 4-4.5K RPMs and I wanted to see if that was rectified with the exhaust leak fix.

Rolled onto the highway and gave her in 4th. The car pulled like it was on damn steroids! The best part is that it wasn't breaking up at all in the top end. It just pulled and pulled... HARD.

So, end result. The engine is running absolutely perfect now. Expect some nice numbers by next week ;)

Things aren't looking good for you fast_dude. :cool

[Fobio]

you need to prepare a sound track for the event...maybe I'll get on it...lol...

[Thrizzl3]

lol slow_streak is pulling away from fast_dud....what will his response be lol.

[BlueStreak]

you need to prepare a sound track for the event...maybe I'll get on it...lol...

You can start here :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8


lol slow_streak is pulling away from fast_dud....what will his response be lol.

"Fffaaacckkkk..." Then he goes forged.

[Thrizzl3]

so i can now enjoy the smell that comes out the back?

[BlueStreak]

There is none. All gone :)

[rzapata]

so i can now enjoy the smell that comes out the back?


There is none. All gone :)

You know why there'll be no smell at all? :chuckle

[loki]

so i can now enjoy the smell that comes out the back?

You are such a f****ing homo

[Thrizzl3]

You are such a f****ing homo

lmao! you would interpret it like that...gutterminded.

[loki]

Blue, glad the unicorn is pulling strong

[Fack_Dude]

That's ok bro! Like I said before I'm the first to make the 400hp in the gta and thats good for me.... By the way, then Paul will come and blow your doors off.....lol

[-cj-]

Bad ass (Just for you Loki).

You'll have to give me a ride in the beast... I'm starting to second guess only getting a tuning solution. I might need some downpipes at this rate......

[BlueStreak]

Thanks gents.

DO IT JERRY!

And fast_dude, 400hp is so last week. :P

[bubba1983]

haha love the bantor this thread proceeds!!

[loki]

Jerry leave your car stock, its perfect the way it is.

don't go down this road again....hahaha

[Fobio]

Jerry leave your car stock, its perfect the way it is.

don't go down this road again....hahaha

problem is, jerry can hit 400whp in stg1...and then stg2 is easily 450+...so he's kinda laughing at us, really...

[BlueStreak]

Jerry can't help it. Too many Mazdas will be mobbing on him :chuckle

[-cj-]

BT MS3 ruined all normal cars for me. :( The crazy amount of kick back when you go WOT is what I attribute to fast... and small turbos can never replicate that :(

That being said, I can't allow myself to be beaten down by BT MS3s hahah... I, at least, have to put up a fight! Hanging out with you guys doesn't help the wallet....

[BlueStreak]

Tell you what Jerry. If you get the RB turbos for your M, I'll get me a GTX3076. Then we'll both hang with Paul in the league of "OMGWTFZ0RZ THIS IS TEH FASTZ!!!"

[loki]

Tell you what Jerry. If you get the RB turbos for your M, I'll get me a GTX3076. Then we'll both hang with Paul in the league of "OMGWTFZ0RZ THIS IS TEH FASTZ!!!"

after all this hype, Paul's car better live up to the expectations...

just sayin'

[Mr Wilson]

Do it......and let the trickle down of parts commence!

[-cj-]

^ LOL. I wish we had people like us when I was starting to mod my MS3! ;)

Dave: I think everything is fair game, but the moment the wife hears "BT" or "turbo", she's revoking my mod rights :(

[Fobio]

^ LOL. I wish we had people like us when I was starting to mod my MS3! ;)

Dave: I think everything is fair game, but the moment the wife hears "BT" or "turbo", she's revoking my mod rights :(

does that convo always preceed the ..."Hey how about you get a vasectomy too?" convo?...lol...

[loki]

oh snap...

[Fack_Dude]

Just get a divorce. Lol

[Fobio]

Just get a divorce. Lol

Cheaper to keep 'er...trust me...

[loki]

Cheaper to keep 'er...trust me...

Fobio, you should get "cheap 'er to keep 'er" decals

[Fack_Dude]

Thats true. Faccck just sell the car have 5 kids and get a minivan. Lol

[loki]

Thats true. Faccck just sell the car have 5 kids and get a minivan. Lol

minivan with a GTX35

[Fack_Dude]

You and the whole family can goes fassstttttt lol

[BlueStreak]

GTX3582 in a Mazda CX-7. We have the technology...

[BlueStreak]

Once the car is fully tuned, I'm going to put the ownership on the dash of the car. If somebody can grab it when I'm going WOT, the car is yours :P

[Fobio]

Once the car is fully tuned, I'm going to put the ownership on the dash of the car. If somebody can grab it when I'm going WOT, the car is yours :P

that's a bit more serious than a $50 bill...eventho they are the same colour.

actually, our ownership is green...and a hell a lot more than a $20 bill...lol...

[BlueStreak]

I like playing high stakes. This is up there with my other interests including wrestling crocodiles, skydiving without a parachute and not wearing "armour".

[-cj-]

LOL. The one time you forget to disable DSC, Imma own your car!

[MajesticBlueNTO]

Thats true. Faccck just sell the car have 5 kids and get a minivan. Lol

oldie but a goodie (http://www.turbovan.net/van.html)

[BlueStreak]

^^^ Ewwwww. Fake wood.

----------------------------------------------------------

Lookie what arrived today. Spin on conversion with Prosport sandwich plate. To run oil press and temp "gauges" perhaps? Stay tuned.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/6833716368_eddca55d2b_z.jpg

[bubba1983]

did someone say turbo minivan?
http://www.gusmahon.org/images/leaves-mini.jpeg

ahh memories of my childhood. my uncle had one.

[BlueStreak]

Did it run 12s? :chuckle

[BlueStreak]

For those who attended the last seminar, I addressed a possible shortcoming with my blow through setup and MAF location. Ideally, the MAF should be located after the intercooler so it doesn't get so hot.

Tonight, I managed to peg the temp sensor on the MAF at 212*F. While this is normal (on the hot side though) for turbo outlet temperatures, it won't bode well for the sensor in the long run. Because I have almost no room after the intercooler to properly mount the MAF sensor, I will be reverting back to pull through soon.

HOWEVER, expect a bit of a curve ball ;)

[CelestSpeed3]

Boooooooooooo, no more VTA.

[BlueStreak]

Boooooooooooo, no more VTA.

Oh? ;)

[-cj-]

Dave's going to convert his car to a dual MAF sensor setup. ;) You heard it here first!

[BlueStreak]

Well gents, it looks like I've been f**king my own couch for a good while now. After posting the last VD plot I decided to up the boost and continue tuning. And that's where the problems began... Mid way through the rev range, the engine would break up like crazy, AFRs would go rich and boost and timing would decrease. The weirdest part was that the car felt faster at part throttle than it did at WOT. Checked the plugs, they were fine. Rechecked compression. It was fine too. This thing plagued me and left me scratching my head.

Then I read the write up on the steering wheel angle sensor (SWAS) on MSF.org... Went back to the car, unplugged the SWAS and went for a few pulls. The car effing MOBS now! Holy crap! What a difference it made. I should be tarred, feathered and be called a brownie for not doing this sooner...

My god, SWAS can die. I do miss the fact that I no longer have stability control tho. I'll have to rig up a kill switch sometime soon. *adds something else to the "to do" list*

Tuning will continue and I'll post VD plots soon. I will go in the dark shortly after since I want to save some expectations for the dyno day at the EECMM in April. Hopefully I get picked to hit the rollers.

[CelestSpeed3]

So are you still moving to draw through?

I say you move the intercooler and keep it blow tru.

[BlueStreak]

Draw thru for now.

Then I'll decide from there. I'm hoping I'll be on draw thru by next week.

[SomeGuy]

Was reading a bit about the SWAS and can't say I experience the same things everyone else is saying. Yes the power limiters are there with steering angle but the stuff about DSC never actually being off with just the button? I disagree...winter time on icy stuff, with DSC on the brakes will do everything to keep me from spinning, hit the DSC off button (no need to hold) and I can slide as much as I damn well please, yank the ebrake and spin the car around and no interference at all. So are the 2nd gen's different? or what's the deal with the DSC?

[BlueStreak]

The issue has to do with trying to put the power down with the steering wheel not being perfectly straight.

Looking back, the SWAS was a big impedance when I was autocrossing with the K04. As I would exit the corner and hit the throttle, the car would be very sluggish. As I unwound the wheel, the engine would just go ballistic and light up the tires. To manage this, it was a song and dance of lifting off the throttle as I straightened out the wheels to maintain optimal corner exit traction.

You can try it yourself. Turn the steering wheel at a very sharp angle and go about half throttle. Then, unwind the steering wheel. As the wheels straighten out, power output will increase. Its sort of a linear relationship.

Now with the big turbo setup, the engine makes so much torque that I can't possibly hold the steering wheel perfectly straight while accelerating. It actually jitters in my hand about 5 degrees left to right as it screams to redline. With the SWAS enabled, it immediately starts cutting power to get things under control. Unfortunately, the way it manages this ends up feeling like the car is misfiring or just not running quite right. If you're not aware that its the SWAS, you end up chasing your tail on the tune or looking for a mechanical issue like I was.

On the other hand, if I accelerated at half throttle where the wheel wouldn't get so jittery, the car accelerated faster... much much faster. It was weird.

EDIT: I'm certain you could get your car to exhibit the same issues if you were fully bolted and implemented an aggressive tune. The K04 can easily push 400ft-lbs of torque at ~3K RPMs (connecting rods be damned! ha). At that point, disabling the SWAS will let you put the power down.

[SomeGuy]

BlueStreak - I get the concept of the SWAS and what you're saying makes perfect sense. I was actually commenting in regards to some of the threads about SWAS I read on MSF that said the DSC only turned the traction control off and not stability control. I haven't experienced that, DSC off seems to turn both off but definitely not the SWAS too.
I actually thought the AP tune removed it (ie how it says removes boost limits in 1st and 2nd) but I guess that only applies to in a straight line and I had found it weird how I noticed occasional boost limiting when turning. Definitely going to have to play with it a bit.

[BlueStreak]

The SWAS is tied in with the stability control it seems. So right now, if I get the car sideways in the corner, its going to be up to me to save my @$$.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that. I'm working on something that may help.

[loki]

The SWAS is tied in with the stability control it seems. So right now, if I get the car sideways in the corner, its going to be up to me to save my @$$.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that. I'm working on something that may help.

You have to show me how to disconnect this

[SomeGuy]

The SWAS is tied in with the stability control it seems. So right now, if I get the car sideways in the corner, its going to be up to me to save my @$$.

Hopefully it doesn't come to that. I'm working on something that may help.

Yeah, makes sense that the SWAS is tied to stability since it would kinda want to know which way you want the car to go. With DSC off though (on the 2010's anyway) it's the same deal, save my own ass too. I'm curious if this hasn't always been the case?

Working on what? :)


You have to show me how to disconnect this

loki - there are a ton of threads on MSF with guides how to do it, looks super easy.

[loki]

Thanks man, I will search on there. I'm not on that forum at all

[SomeGuy]

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f33/swas-how-disable-103665/
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f429/how-install-switch-swas-enable-disable-102406/
:)

[BlueStreak]

^^^This.

[loki]

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f33/swas-how-disable-103665/
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f429/how-install-switch-swas-enable-disable-102406/
:)

Nice

[Fack_Dude]

Nice

Once you got it disconnected, go on the highway and find the fastest turn and step on the bitch and tell us what happens. :D

[Fack_Dude]

Better not. Just to be on the safe side.

[Fobio]

From what I have observed, the SWAS is only a concern for those who AutoX (high G cornering in lower gears) and/or are making 350+whp/400+wtrq. From my tuning experience, I haven't seen this issue with K04's. For most, the SWAS is a net benefit in terms of the safety it provides for drivers who haven't gone thru advanced drivers' training.

[BlueStreak]

Once you got it disconnected, go on the highway and find the fastest turn and step on the bitch and tell us what happens. :D

fast_dud has a death wish...

[Fack_Dude]

fast_dud has a death wish...


Slow_streak didn't you see the other post....lol I said not to do it......I don't support stunt driving.......

[-cj-]

loki, this is only applicable to people making big power. Your power is in a cardboard box under the stairs... I wouldn't worry about the angle sensor!

[loki]

loki, this is only applicable to people making big power. Your power is in a cardboard box under the stairs... I wouldn't worry about the angle sensor!

You were so scared of big power, you went and bought a BMW.....no swas needed

[-cj-]

Big turbo...been there, first to do that. On to next shiny thing.

[loki]

Big turbo...been there, first to do that. On to next shiny thing.

I'm so curious as to the next shiny thing after this! Haha fighter jet? :)

So Blue, fix all the bugs then?

[fywdyl]

Was reading a bit about the SWAS and can't say I experience the same things everyone else is saying. Yes the power limiters are there with steering angle but the stuff about DSC never actually being off with just the button? I disagree...winter time on icy stuff, with DSC on the brakes will do everything to keep me from spinning, hit the DSC off button (no need to hold) and I can slide as much as I damn well please, yank the ebrake and spin the car around and no interference at all. So are the 2nd gen's different? or what's the deal with the DSC?

On the Gen1, you have to hold down the DSC button to "fully" turn it off.

On the Gen2, you just have to press it to do the same thing.

[SomeGuy]

On the Gen1, you have to hold down the DSC button to "fully" turn it off.

On the Gen2, you just have to press it to do the same thing.

Ahh cool, so another +1 to the genpu! But that explains the difference from the posters on MSF, thanks dude!

[Mr Wilson]

Ahh cool, so another +1 to the genpu! But that explains the difference from the posters on MSF, thanks dude!

So,
Genwon = 376
Genpu = 2

;)

[loki]

So,
Genwon = 376
Genpu = 2

;)

:winner

[BlueStreak]

I'm so curious as to the next shiny thing after this! Haha fighter jet? :)

So Blue, fix all the bugs then?

Yep. Car pulls like a stabbed rat. I just have to relocate the MAF sensor and finish tuning before the NJ NATOR meet.

[loki]

Yep. Car pulls like a stabbed rat. I just have to relocate the MAF sensor and finish tuning before the NJ NATOR meet.

Good work!

[-cj-]

Hahah @ stabbed rat reference. Dave spent some time on the streets!

Loki: next shiny thing I see will be my wife's ring when she hits me for not keeping my mods moderate. :(

[loki]

Hahah @ stabbed rat reference. Dave spent some time on the streets!

Loki: next shiny thing I see will be my wife's ring when she hits me for not keeping my mods moderate. :(

Should have bought the small rock to minimize the damage to your face...

Next time...

"stabbed rat" was an amazing reference

[rzapata]

Yep. Car pulls like a stabbed rat. I just have to relocate the MAF sensor and finish tuning before the NJ NATOR meet.

Stabbed rat! :chuckle I can't imagine the car behaving like that.. Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, yeah! :chuckle

[BlueStreak]

Some bad news guys....




My L2A intercooler setup can't keep up with the cooling demands of 25+PSI and trying to make close to 500whp. BATs get too hot for the engine and I get all sorts of timing being pulled up top. I'm going to have to switch to a conventional front mount setup. *sigh*

This L2A setup was awesome at 20PSI. Would be even better if I mounted an icebox in the engine bay for racing. Unfortunately, I do plan on running time attack and keeping the icebox chilled while ripping the car around the track for 20-30 mins at a time won't be possible. This setup is best suited for somebody who wants to either stick with the K04 and not run an icebox or go big turbo and run an icebox for drag racing.

The setup will be up for sale as soon as its out of the car. It could be a day or a few weeks; we'll see when I source the FMIC. It really depends on alot of factors. I'll likely include my HKS BPV with it since the piping is flanged for it.

As a result of all this, the drive down to NJ this weekend will be uneventful and I won't be participating in the dyno event.

I have nothing else to say at the moment so I'll post this picture of a sad panda.
http://pandaaday.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/137552-sad_panda.jpg

[loki]

can you run the CObb FMIC ( we all know Fobio has one lying around...), or do you need something custom?

[BlueStreak]

The COBB will work or a nice Treadstone TR8 core with custom piping.

The clincher is I just moved in with my girlfriend so I don't want to just drop $$$ to bounce back in a day or two. I have to be more strategic.

[fywdyl]

So sad... LTA isn't working out AND you had to move in with the gf...

[BlueStreak]

Double whammy. Haha.

I think I may just detune and drive around with pink fogs for a while.

[loki]

If you just run the 20 psi for now, seems like you'll be fine.

[BlueStreak]

Yeah, its fine but not fun. 25PSI was nutso. Anything less now is like a NA MZ3 :P

[rzapata]

Sad news indeed... After all that work that you put in to this. Hopefully the next set up goes well.

EDIT:

@fywdyl: What is up with the red car and pink fogs? :chuckle

[Thrizzl3]

so sad :( how much timing was being pulled dave?

[BlueStreak]

Up to 4* showing up as KR. It really depends on how hot the BATs got in that pull.

It wasn't real KR though, its just how the ECU manages high BAT ignition advance. I can explain in person if you want.

[-cj-]

http://www.clubnet.org/~clave/TM3/cpe1.jpg

... Just saying, Dave. Sure, you COULD run < 25 psi, but do you really want to be mobbed on?! ;)

[BlueStreak]

http://www.clubnet.org/~clave/TM3/cpe1.jpg

... Just saying, Dave. Sure, you COULD run < 25 psi, but do you really want to be mobbed on?! ;)

I hate you... for now.

Enjoy this time, Jerry. When I get my front mount, I'm turning this thing up to 11. :P

[Fack_Dude]

Facccckkkk. Damn it Jerry. You are a real life troll. Always coming to the speed meets in the bmw and you have to now show off your damn parts....lol How dare you.

[BlueStreak]

Jerry knows how to throw salt in wounds :P

[-cj-]

LOL. I do it to keep you guys motivated! If I weren't around, you wouldn't be going to Jersey, Dave would get lazy because you're throwing in the towel, and no BT MS3 would rep NATOR Canada! ;) Thankfully we have a BT MS6 showing.... FOR SHAME!

At this rate, I'm going to modify my badge to read: ///Mazdaspeed

[Fack_Dude]

LOL. I do it to keep you guys motivated! If I weren't around, you wouldn't be going to Jersey, Dave would get lazy because you're throwing in the towel, and no BT MS3 would rep NATOR Canada! ;) Thankfully we have a BT MS6 showing.... FOR SHAME!

At this rate, I'm going to modify my badge to read: ///Mazdaspeed

Lol

[BlueStreak]

With the help of the MSpeed boys, an intercooler setup was sourced. Its going in tonight.

Seems like a few guys here want my car running at peak performance so I have no excuse to give when they beat me :P

I'm hoping I'll be able to get it tuned in time.

Stay tuned.

[MarineMazda]

Yes for WIN!!! I was looking at the COBB piping set up and it looks like Blow through might still Work? Any plans?

My real hope is you go with TR10 and mobb like Crazy! The 6 is getting the full smile treatment soon :D

[BlueStreak]

Blow thru is definitely still in the cards but not in the works for now. I'm working on getting the car running and making power before I take the plunge and go full custom. For now, I will run the COBB V2 setup.

Sometime in the near future, I will look into a Treadstone core with custom piping, blow through and VTA BOV. I went back to recirc last week for the sake of my MAF and the ricer in me feels like he just lost his best friend. The car is so tame sounding :(

I'm not done with blow thru, damnit!

[MarineMazda]

Sweet! How did the FMIC work out after I left? Sorry I couldn't stay and Help but the Exam was calling hahahaha

[Mr Wilson]

So fricken' cold, but it's in.

[Thrizzl3]

we found another t-bolt clamp..lol. so everything went smooth after that..well until we had to close the hood :P

[-cj-]

Props to you two for carrying through with the install....

also glad we figured out the tea situation between the two Pauls hah.

[BlueStreak]

Yesterday was d day to get the car tuned and lay a smack down on this Sunday's dyno day.

However, fail didn't let the car do its thing and make power. I'll get further into detail tomorrow as I'm busy right now and need to gather my thoughts on the matter.

[fywdyl]

Yesterday was d day to get the car tuned and lay a smack down on this Sunday's dyno day.

However, fail didn't let the car do its thing and make power. I'll get further into detail tomorrow as I'm busy right now and need to gather my thoughts on the matter.

Ohs nos.

Hopefully everything works out by Sunday, or else you will lose to the fack_dude.

[BlueStreak]

At this point, fack_dude and -cj- will whoop my butt. I have to eat all my smack talk. Haha.

I will do what needs to be done to the car on the weekend of June 2nd. I don't have time to look at it until then.

[-cj-]

I hope for our sake, Sunday is as "bad" for dynoing (weather wise) as it was last night! Otherwise we'll both be hearing about it from fack_dude!

Dave, all these little things are annoying, but I know you'll get it all sorted out. At the end of the day, yesterday was just a date, just like Sunday will be. You weren't READY... Which is a completely different problem from You / Your Car weren't capable. All part of the game. Just keep a clear head and don't let the frustration get the best of you.

[BlueStreak]

I hope for our sake, Sunday is as "bad" for dynoing (weather wise) as it was last night! Otherwise we'll both be hearing about it from fack_dude!

Dave, all these little things are annoying, but I know you'll get it all sorted out. At the end of the day, yesterday was just a date, just like Sunday will be. You weren't READY... Which is a completely different problem from You / Your Car weren't capable. All part of the game. Just keep a clear head and don't let the frustration get the best of you.

Thanks Jerry.

After sleeping it off and taking a shower this morning, I'm good to get back in it and get the car ripping.

3 hours on the dyno + the ungodly heat and I was ready to lose it yesterday :P

[Fack_Dude]

Facckkkk.

[boyracer]

She'll get there. I have faith in you

[breakfasteatre]

showering was out of the ordinary, good idea to change things up to get a fresh state of mind!


Thanks Jerry.

After sleeping it off and taking a shower this morning, I'm good to get back in it and get the car ripping.

3 hours on the dyno + the ungodly heat and I was ready to lose it yesterday :P

[MarineMazda]

Thanks Jerry.

After sleeping it off and taking a shower this morning, I'm good to get back in it and get the car ripping.

3 hours on the dyno + the ungodly heat and I was ready to lose it yesterday :P

Now imagine if you had no Water hahahaha! You figure out where the Meth was leaking from? If you need a Hand the Weekend of the 2nd I can drive down and lend a hand! Nator North North is always open as well :D

[BlueStreak]

She'll get there. I have faith in you

Thanks, Simon. I'll get this sorted.


Now imagine if you had no Water hahahaha! You figure out where the Meth was leaking from? If you need a Hand the Weekend of the 2nd I can drive down and lend a hand! Nator North North is always open as well :D

With no water, you would've seen stuff flying across the garage. Ha.

The meth manifold needs better gasketing. I'll get on that in addition to checking for blockages in the exhaust. If NATOR North is open this coming Saturday, I'll be there wrenching away. I'll keep you posted.

As an aside. Daddy Chinkus from MSF dynoed his car. Take a look at this.

Powah = red hot mani at the collector. Haha. His even caught fire.
http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/attachments/f505/62202d1338227397-daddy-chinkuss-car-catching-fire-ava.png

[Mr Wilson]

The vid, she does not work.....

[MarineMazda]

Hey Dave,

Was on the Vibrant Site looking at things and thought this might be the solution to Meth Issues... Thoughts?


http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1022_1028&products_id=1082

Solid piece of Aluminium No Gaskets and NPT for fittings....

[BlueStreak]

That looks like it'll work similar to what I have now.

The manifold I have in the car works quite well, actually. I'm 99% sure the leak is coming from the threads on the mani as I didn't put any gasket material on it. At the time, I read that methanol breaks down teflon (tape) so I decided to put nothing. Here it is biting me in the ass :P

I'll find something to seal it up.

[-cj-]

I have that Vibrant manifold with a bunch of the connectors, if anyone wants to buy it off me. Brand new, never installed. Was going to use it for my boost lines. :)

Dave: It is possible that it was spraying from the intake manifold. I'd definitely get that fixed... Although from what *I* saw, it looked like it was spilling out from the meth manifold... but it is possible that it was from the IM and it was just spraying upwards against the meth mani...

[BlueStreak]

I agree with you, Jerry. It came from the manifold.

I stood outside the car and stared at the mani for 2-3 pulls when you rode shotgun with Anthony on the dyno.

[MarineMazda]

I concur :P It was Coming out of the Meth Manifold for sure Where I don't know... Hahaha They do make different kinds of Teflon Tape... Some can handle Fuels it tends to be Pink in colour... I have used it with Diesel as well as Gasoline maybe it will work with Meth? Jerry I might be interested in that Manifold Shoot me a txt or a Pm with what ya want for it :D


I agree with you, Jerry. It came from the manifold.

I stood outside the car and stared at the mani for 2-3 pulls when you rode shotgun with Anthony on the dyno.