Random MS3 Chat Thread

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Originally Posted by standsideways

Lol I can drive the car properly, and know where my limits are. If my instructors thought i was going to end up in a wall i would not have been moved up into the "fast" group with the boss 302, new carerra, z06, etc.

They wouldent have let me drive it all out and have been telling me we can still go faster without the boost cut.

2 instructors noticed the SWAS was holding me back on exit, i had boost up on my AP and we were watching it cut boost when we needed it.

You cannot use all the track properly with swas on a gen2, it is garbage.

Myself and my instructors both FELT and SAW the car cutting boost when we needed it.

Cant deal with that for another 10+ track events this year.

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Originally Posted by standsideways

Lol I can drive the car properly, and know where my limits are. If my instructors thought i was going to end up in a wall i would not have been moved up into the "fast" group with the boss 302, new carerra, z06, etc.

They wouldent have let me drive it all out and have been telling me we can still go faster without the boost cut.

2 instructors noticed the SWAS was holding me back on exit, i had boost up on my AP and we were watching it cut boost when we needed it.

You cannot use all the track properly with swas on a gen2, it is garbage.

Myself and my instructors both FELT and SAW the car cutting boost when we needed it.

Cant deal with that for another 10+ track events this year.

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you done tooting your own horn yet?

good....

he was just saying to be careful. He disconnected his and it's a bit scary at times. But then again, he also has 430 whp...

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Originally Posted by loki

you done tooting your own horn yet?

good....

he was just saying to be careful. He disconnected his and it's a bit scary at times. But then again, he also has 430 whp...

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lol

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Originally Posted by breakfasteatre

they are tires, i dont get this

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Ah, I totally mixed this up with R3 rims.

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Originally Posted by loki

you done tooting your own horn yet?

good....

he was just saying to be careful. He disconnected his and it's a bit scary at times. But then again, he also has 430 whp...

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Dont hate loki, im far from a professional driver, but confidence is key, cockyness is bad.

I also NEED a small amount of rotation for corner entry and since the dsc would be completely off i could get that small rotation.

You can tell on track that the car is electronically held back at points, and when it is LITERALLY making you slower than you could be it needs to go.

Ide just like to drive the car at its potential, and with swas and dsc you are not able to reach its potential!

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Originally Posted by Booostin

http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/foru...isable-102406/

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This is what i planned to do.

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Originally Posted by standsideways

Lol I can drive the car properly, and know where my limits are. If my instructors thought i was going to end up in a wall i would not have been moved up into the "fast" group with the boss 302, new carerra, z06, etc.

They wouldent have let me drive it all out and have been telling me we can still go faster without the boost cut.

2 instructors noticed the SWAS was holding me back on exit, i had boost up on my AP and we were watching it cut boost when we needed it.

You cannot use all the track properly with swas on a gen2, it is garbage.

Myself and my instructors both FELT and SAW the car cutting boost when we needed it.

Cant deal with that for another 10+ track events this year.

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This is at TMP? Why were you in 1st or 2nd where SWAS is fully active? Track recon? or just cruising around?

Otherwise, I've never been in 1st and 2nd at TMP...and SWAS was never issue....but being in 1st and 2nd @ TMP might be why...

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Originally Posted by Fobio

This is at TMP? Why were you in 1st or 2nd where SWAS is fully active? Track recon? or just cruising around?

Otherwise, I've never been in 1st and 2nd at TMP...and SWAS was never issue....but being in 1st and 2nd @ TMP might be why...

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It was at ddt vince.

when we ran the first configuration (clockwise with 3 kinks) it was an issue, but that config was strictly for the school i think.


Then ccw 1 kink i was getting it at the bottom of the hill before the straight and again and the end of the straight, one is a 90* the other one is more than 90* and i was in second for both.

Maybe celest will chyme in, hes had his gen2 on ddt a few times ide imagine.

I'm not sure Paul ever got to put the gen2 on a track yet but teaching and having learned at DDT id be hard pressed to hit boost cut in second gear. You're going too slow for boost.

CCW at DDT. With stock turbo I only need 3rd and 4th. Even CW with the extra kink before front start where you need second for a bit you should never hit boost cut.

Techniques play a huge part. I've never had issues with swas at track.

that switch seems like a very easy install regardless. Curious how things are going to pan out at sigma #1

**** yeah, its this weekend

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Originally Posted by Fobio

I'm not sure Paul ever got to put the gen2 on a track yet but teaching and having learned at DDT id be hard pressed to hit boost cut in second gear. You're going too slow for boost.

CCW at DDT. With stock turbo I only need 3rd and 4th. Even CW with the extra kink before front start where you need second for a bit you should never hit boost cut.

Techniques play a huge part. I've never had issues with swas at track.

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Ill be back there in a few weeks, im going to install the switch and see what happens.

You running event 1&2 Vince?

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Originally Posted by standsideways

Ill be back there in a few weeks, im going to install the switch and see what happens.

You running event 1&2 Vince?

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Likely not...you should grab a seat in MBNTO's car if you get a chance.

Standsideways

No I haven't had my car at the track yet however I can assure you I drive the car pretty hard. I have yet to find the DSC in anyway interfere with my driving with my summer tires. The computer monitors wheel spin and then will issue a correction based on the swas. I rarely, rarely get wheelspin if the tires are warm so maybe that's why it doesn't bother me.

I however will be making more than a few track appearances this year so I will have more experience to gauge the situation you are having.


Just to curb my curiousity are you running an accessport?

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Originally Posted by CelestSpeed3

Just to curb my curiousity are you running an accessport?

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Yes i am :)

Hey would you guys be interested in setting up an official NatorTO website or do we have one already?

Also if anyone else ever needs any cheap domains, feel free to PM me.

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Originally Posted by CelestSpeed3

Just to curb my curiousity are you running an accessport?

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Originally Posted by standsideways

Yes i am :)

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more than likely it is certain factors in your tune and not SWAS

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Originally Posted by Turok

Hey would you guys be interested in setting up an official NatorTO website or do we have one already?

Also if anyone else ever needs any cheap domains, feel free to PM me.

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I may be biased, but I don't think a separate site is needed. Between the discussion here, and on FB, a third site would just be too much.

Yea, no need...whenever people try to split things off it just kills everything. At best I'd say we could use a NATOR subcategory in the mazdaspeed section but even then, the topics aren't usually NATOR as much as they are mazdaspeed related.

no need to further separate. Not even a need for a separate section in the speed section.

last thing I need is another forum/website to troll....

Nator isn't something physical, it's a state of mind!

Cool, I thought of that after I posted that it's better to just keep everything within this MS3 section.

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Originally Posted by MajesticBlueNTO

more than likely it is certain factors in your tune and not SWAS

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*sigh* time for a tune huh

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Originally Posted by standsideways

*sigh* time for a tune huh

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yup

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Originally Posted by standsideways

*sigh* time for a tune huh

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I agree with what MBNTO said and was going to bring it up the first time...but I'm not about to go tell everyone they need a tune, so as to avoid perceived conflict of interest by indirectly advertising.

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Originally Posted by Fobio

I agree with what MBNTO said and was going to bring it up the first time...but I'm not about to go tell everyone they need a tune, so as to avoid perceived conflict of interest by indirectly advertising.

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Lol i wouldent have taken it that way, but i understand u dont wanna be the salesman type!

Not really a fan of the msf style "send a random guy your logs/map and let him tune it" but thats my only option at this time.

broke as all hell with the racing LOL

Yeah, I would rather learn how to tune myself too (and am doing as much). It's lousy how these days the people with the know how are in it for making money rather than sharing their knowledge :( I don't really want to pay for a tune, trust that they do everything right and not understand what they changed and why and how it affects my car.