Random MS3 Chat Thread

[bilinz]

Hope this isn't a stupid question but whats the differnce between the following...MS3 and MZ3.

Is it...
MS3 = Mazdaspeed3
MZ3 = Mazda 3

[loki]

Hope this isn't a stupid question but whats the differnce between the following...MS3 and MZ3.

Is it...
MS3 = Mazdaspeed3
MZ3 = Mazda 3

Yes

[DLYDRVN]

Hey guys, heard back from mazda.. looks like my head is cooked. Because of the labour involved in swapping the valve train into a new head the dealer is looking potentially at sourcing a used engine. Anyone know of a local source of built used or crate engines?

If i'm in for a penny in for a pound at this point. Esp if the price is comparable/cheaper. I'm just looking to be prepared for what they come back with tomorrow so I have enough info to make an informed choice.

[Mr Wilson]

Are they covering it, or are you?

[DLYDRVN]

I am preparing for the worst case that I will be covering it or trying to go through insurance.

[fywdyl]

I am preparing for the worst case that I will be covering it or trying to go through insurance.

How are you able to go through insurance? I doubt the issue was caused by an accident.

[pwdunmore]

How are you able to go through insurance? I doubt the issue was caused by an accident.

[DLYDRVN]

Yea... basically ;-) Was a long shot, but wanted to see if they would cover it under my comp... No so much. At any rate, still trying to research options. I talked to Graveyard Motorsport in MI and he roughly estimated rebuilding the head, and block for up to 450hp would probably run under $6k

[pwdunmore]

Yea... basically ;-) Was a long shot, but wanted to see if they would cover it under my comp... No so much. At any rate, still trying to research options. I talked to Graveyard Motorsport in MI and he roughly estimated rebuilding the head, and block for up to 450hp would probably run under $6k

Unless you plan to go BT I wouldn't bother going with a built motor but if you have the money to spend go for it.

I would get a 2nd gen engine for reliability and cost. You will still be able to make lots of power if you plan to stay with the K04.

[DLYDRVN]

Going to stick with k04 for now, but had entertained thoughts of BT in the (distant) future. Basically I'm looking at if I'm going to have to lay out $4500 to get exactly what I have now anyway, an extra $1500 to build a better (possibly more reliable) engine seems like a reasonable idea.

[pwdunmore]

Going to stick with k04 for now, but had entertained thoughts of BT in the (distant) future. Basically I'm looking at if I'm going to have to lay out $4500 to get exactly what I have now anyway, an extra $1500 to build a better (possibly more reliable) engine seems like a reasonable idea.

Nothing risked = nothing gained

So all the power to you! Literally lol... Good luck with the car, hopefully this is the worse case scenario. Let us know when you find out more info from mazda.

[DLYDRVN]

Yea... the pain right now is the waiting! Seriously... Its looking like a week or more before I'll see my baby back at minimum... It's killing me!

[DLYDRVN]

And I am evidently the latest zoom zoom boom victim... Except with very little zoom zoom and a pretty pathetic boom.

Head is fubard, block may be compromised. Given the costs involved dealer is thinking a new gen2 engine is the most economical. Of course the engine is back ordered so it'll me two weeks likely that I'll be driving my loud and obnoxious mz2...


If anyone knows of a better solution, I'm all ears, but I'm leaning towards new, no mileage engine. $8000 later....

[Mr Wilson]

That's shitty news. Have they figured out a cause?

Aren't replacing because of mods?

[DLYDRVN]

They're positive the cause was the overheating caused by the loss of coolant. Because i suspect i had been loosing coolant slowly till right when i threw the codes on the highway its possible a lot of heating and cooling cycles may have contributed.

I'm going to get some clarification on the warranty thing. Dealer implied that Mazda canada would see a head that badly warped and just refuse it outright, esp as the coolant failure was not 'defect' related, but I'll check today when we talk to come up with a plan of action.

My family and I have a great relationship with Kieswetter in KW, so that might contribute, but to their great credit they are going out of their way to do everything they can to minimize how painful this will be. The service manager, parts manager and dealership owner are all meeting specifically to discuss and see how they can help. I know some people on the board have had less than stellar experiences there, so I feel it's worth mentioning.

[pwdunmore]

This sucks a big bag of dicks... so sad to hear all of this after giving you all the JBR stuff too

[SomeGuy]

They're positive the cause was the overheating caused by the loss of coolant. Because i suspect i had been loosing coolant slowly till right when i threw the codes on the highway its possible a lot of heating and cooling cycles may have contributed.

I'm going to get some clarification on the warranty thing. Dealer implied that Mazda canada would see a head that badly warped and just refuse it outright, esp as the coolant failure was not 'defect' related, but I'll check today when we talk to come up with a plan of action.

My family and I have a great relationship with Kieswetter in KW, so that might contribute, but to their great credit they are going out of their way to do everything they can to minimize how painful this will be. The service manager, parts manager and dealership owner are all meeting specifically to discuss and see how they can help. I know some people on the board have had less than stellar experiences there, so I feel it's worth mentioning.

A failed coolant hose to me would be a defect...within the 5 year powertrain warranty those should never fail. If the car did not throw any warnings at you prior to it blowing up, you didn't contribute to any outside influence, then I would think it should honestly be covered. It's not as though the engine blew as a result of anything you did to the vehicle.

[DLYDRVN]

True, but remember the coolant hose didn't fail.. It got eaten by a Grue. :-\

At any rate, it's done. Looked at a ton of options in the last couple days including a fully forged rebuild, but in the end decided the most cost effective option was to buy a new engine. There was just no way to guarantee the integrity of the existing block in the long run, and I plan on keeping this car for as long as possible. Add to that the fact that it'll have the VVT fix etc... and it just seems like the safest option.

The guys at Kieswetter just came up with far too good of a deal to turn down. They went seriously above and beyond for me on labour and the cost of the engine and parts.

Looks like I'll be in the 2 for another couple weeks, but after that I'll have my baby back, with a 0km engine in her. The upshot is, of course that if I want to look to build the engine down the road, I'm doing it on a rock solid engine whos history I will know completely.

[DLYDRVN]

This sucks a big bag of dicks... so sad to hear all of this after giving you all the JBR stuff too

Not to worry! It all went on ok, and it'll all go back on again ;-) Actually I might be able to get them to install the TIG for me when they reassemble ;-)

[BillyBoy]

Hey guys amd gals IM A proud new owner oI a 2013 MS3....
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Im a noob to this
Forum so bare with me.............

[pwdunmore]

Hey guys amd gals IM A proud new owner oI a 2013 MS3....
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Im a noob to this
Forum so bare with me.............

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...od-Path-Series

Read post #1 in that thread go to the links about the "Power Path Series", it talks about safe ways to upgrade and there is also an Mazdaspeed Oil Thread.

Oil Thread:
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...ne-Oil-Threads

[BillyBoy]

http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...od-Path-Series

Read post #1 in that thread go to the links about the "Power Path Series", it talks about safe ways to upgrade and there is also an Mazdaspeed Oil Thread.

Oil Thread:
http://www.torontomazda3.ca/forum/sh...ne-Oil-Threads

Thanx!

[Fack_Dude]

Hey guys amd gals IM A proud new owner oI a 2013 MS3....
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Im a noob to this
Forum so bare with me.............

Keep it stock.

[Fack_Dude]

Hey guys amd gals IM A proud new owner oI a 2013 MS3....
Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Im a noob to this
Forum so bare with me.............

Better yet go big turbo.

[BillyBoy]

Thanx guys..... I pick it up tommorow looking forward
To the meets.............