Random MS3 Chat Thread

[SilentJay]

On another note Trying to drum up a GB for those who are interested

[J_Logik]

Hey Gents,

I'm in the market for some new rubber. I'm looking for summer tires at the stock size, don't really want the 235mm look and would like some feedback from those who've already replaced their Gen 2 Dun-flops!

I've narrowed down to (in order or preference)
- Kumho Ecsta SPT
- Continental ExtremeContact DW
- FEDERAL SS-595

I'd love to get the Michelin Pilot Super Sports, but frankly their pricey and I don't drive as much as I used to nor as hard!!

Any other suggestions I'm all ears!!

Thx,
J

[pwdunmore]

I'm on Toyo Proxes T1's which I got a good price from newmarket tire and I really enjoyed the extra traction + better ride quality with them.

I have heard good things about the Continentals and they would were my choice if I didn't get such a good deal on my Toyo's.
Michelin's are nice but I agree with you, I don't want to spend that kinda money with my current set-up.

[loki]

Don't know what you mean by the 235 look. You have a pu so any tires look puny...apparently @fywdyl has 18's but they look like 16's

@S.F.W. is running 245's and they don't look big at all

[DLYDRVN]

The conti's are a good tire but the wet traction is kind of lacking. The federals have crap wet weather traction and they're generally cheaper.

I like the kumho look and they are supposed to be a great tire. They were on my short list for rubber for my speed when I was looking.

+1 to the toyo proxes t1's. I adored my T1Rs.

You may also want to look at Falken 452s. Have run two sets of them on the rx8 and been very happy all around. A bit noisy but great wet traction.

[S.F.W.]

The conti's are a good tire but the wet traction is kind of lacking. The federals have crap wet weather traction and they're generally cheaper.

I like the kumho look and they are supposed to be a great tire. They were on my short list for rubber for my speed when I was looking.

+1 to the toyo proxes t1's. I adored my T1Rs.

You may also want to look at Falken 452s. Have run two sets of them on the rx8 and been very happy all around. A bit noisy but great wet traction.

The 452's, I haven't run on the speed platform, but ran on my old 3, was not a fan. Found they wore quickly, and generally performed below expectations.

The Conti's were on my short list before I bought Hankook V12's .

[SomeGuy]

PSS's are about $1000 out the door and worth every penny. If and when I wear through my current set, another set (or whatever the newest version) will be going on. Given how much we spend on other mods for these cars, spending $1000 on a set of tires doesn't seem so bad given how much they do for the performance of the vehicle.

[DLYDRVN]

Yea, good call out on the wear factor on the 452's. I will admit that two seasons of spirited driving in the rx8 was enough. I was otherwise very happy with them, but I haven't run them on the speed either

V12's were on my short list as well.

I should mention I suppose that I'm running BFG g-force KDW-II on my speed right now

Oh, also I've been happy with Yoko s.drives on my 2. Totally different car power-wise but very grippy cornering and good wet traction.

The 452's, I haven't run on the speed platform, but ran on my old 3, was not a fan. Found they wore quickly, and generally performed below expectations.

The Conti's were on my short list before I bought Hankook V12's .

[greyseason]

Im doing my own looking but is there a big difference between summer and performance all seasons?

[SomeGuy]

Im doing my own looking but is there a big difference between summer and performance all seasons?

Yes.

[greyseason]

Yes.

hokay. Just cause im looking at the Pilot sport AT or whatever, but id like a summer tire with good wet traction

[Karmaspeed]

The 452's, I haven't run on the speed platform, but ran on my old 3, was not a fan. Found they wore quickly, and generally performed below expectations.

The Conti's were on my short list before I bought Hankook V12's .

Thought I'd throw this in as an option.
Spoke with Keith at exclusive and convinced me to get the new falken 453's. He's been driving on them and said that they are quieter and bigger improvement over the 452's. He also said he had a client buy some super sports, came back and got the 453's as he didn't like how super sports performed on his car. Said later that he preferred the 453's as the sidewall is stiffer and better for spirited/handling driving. Also the 453's tread pattern is almost the same as the super sports so not uni-directional and can be rotated for longevity; and price is the same as the V12's.

[iiliu]

Seeing as you guys are currently talking about tires... how are the stock speed3 tires? Dunlop Sport 2050...? Garbage like all OEM tires?

[SomeGuy]

hokay. Just cause im looking at the Pilot sport AT or whatever, but id like a summer tire with good wet traction

PSS's are absolutely fine in the wet. Better than my old Toyo Proxes on my old 3. Just get the pilot sport A/S's ... they will be a HUGE upgrade for you and will last a bit longer and work a little later in the season. All seasons vs summer's, the biggest difference is their tolerance to cold which trades off some dry/warm weather performance.

Seeing as you guys are currently talking about tires... how are the stock speed3 tires? Dunlop Sport 2050...? Garbage like all OEM tires?

They are decently grippy in the dry for an OEM tire. Wear, noise, comfort, wet, etc are all compromised. That said, run em' till they're done before upgrading.

Thought I'd throw this in as an option.
Spoke with Keith at exclusive and convinced me to get the new falken 453's. He's been driving on them and said that they are quieter and bigger improvement over the 452's. He also said he had a client buy some super sports, came back and got the 453's as he didn't like how super sports performed on his car. Said later that he preferred the 453's as the sidewall is stiffer and better for spirited/handling driving. Also the 453's tread pattern is almost the same as the super sports so not uni-directional and can be rotated for longevity; and price is the same as the V12's.

I don't find the PSS's soft...they track very well when cornering fast/hard, are predictable and afford some extra grip when you reach the limits due to their variable contact patch stuff.

[iiliu]

Ah. I don't have a speed3 but I picked up a set of speed3 wheels for my 3, which came with Dunlop OEM tires still in pretty good shape. I figured I would run them till they die and maybe look into Pilot Sport AT as well, heard they were good

[loki]

Ah. I don't have a speed3 but I picked up a set of speed3 wheels for my 3, which came with Dunlop OEM tires still in pretty good shape. I figured I would run them till they die and maybe look into Pilot Sport AT as well, heard they were good

I think it's the 263hp and 280 lbs.ft that causes alot of the issues. YOu should be fine.

[Lmmorden]

Thank you! Lol i do have an extra one if anyone wants

Baby or sticker?

[miako]

I think it's the 263hp and 280 lbs.ft that causes alot of the issues. YOu should be fine.

My buddy borrowed my oem and rims for his gen 2 mazda 3 a year ago, he said the grip on the Dunlops was amazing. I thought he was trolling me but I guess it depends on the power and what he originally had.

Baby or sticker?

is this a joke?

[iiliu]

My buddy borrowed my oem and rims for his gen 2 mazda 3 a year ago, he said the grip on the Dunlops was amazing. I thought he was trolling me but I guess it depends on the power and what he originally had.

I originally had the Yokohomas that came with the 3 and it wasn't that great. On dry they were ok but anything else they were garbage. Now after a long winter I think I'll find all summer tires amazing lol! But very excited to put on the speed3 rims/tires whenever the snow decidees to go away, hopefully won't make the ride too bumpy

[miako]

I originally had the Yokohomas that came with the 3 and it wasn't that great. On dry they were ok but anything else they were garbage. Now after a long winter I think I'll find all summer tires amazing lol! But very excited to put on the speed3 rims/tires whenever the snow decidees to go away, hopefully won't make the ride too bumpy

The yokohama's are all seasons? if so I'm pretty sure the dunlops should be better. I mean the Dunlops were alright for my car, not the greatest.. .but everything went to the shitters when I started to mod.

[iiliu]

The yokohama's are all seasons? if so I'm pretty sure the dunlops should be better. I mean the Dunlops were alright for my car, not the greatest.. .but everything went to the shitters when I started to mod.

Yep the yokohomas are all seasons. I'm going to assume that at the least the OEM tires for the speed3 will be better than tires for the just the regular 3. Regardless, definitely excited to get the wheels on.

[J_Logik]

Don't know what you mean by the 235 look. You have a pu so any tires look puny...apparently @fywdyl has 18's but they look like 16's

@S.F.W. is running 245's and they don't look big at all

Well loki, I'd rather have the tire seat comfortably on the rim, that have the sidewall over hang any because I went too wide. But if @S.F.W. is riding on the same rubber as last season. I remember his car and you're right, they looked very good. Maybe I can get a 235 then.

I'm on Toyo Proxes T1's which I got a good price from newmarket tire and I really enjoyed the extra traction + better ride quality with them.

I have heard good things about the Continentals and they would were my choice if I didn't get such a good deal on my Toyo's.
Michelin's are nice but I agree with you, I don't want to spend that kinda money with my current set-up.

I'll check out the Toyo's never had a set, but have only heard good things......

The conti's are a good tire but the wet traction is kind of lacking. The federals have crap wet weather traction and they're generally cheaper.

I like the kumho look and they are supposed to be a great tire. They were on my short list for rubber for my speed when I was looking.

+1 to the toyo proxes t1's. I adored my T1Rs.

You may also want to look at Falken 452s. Have run two sets of them on the rx8 and been very happy all around. A bit noisy but great wet traction.

Ok. Federals were a value option.....not really in the running and put out now with the wet traction issue. I didn't even like the wet traction of my Dunlops and I've used those.

The 452's, I haven't run on the speed platform, but ran on my old 3, was not a fan. Found they wore quickly, and generally performed below expectations.

The Conti's were on my short list before I bought Hankook V12's .

I'm not a fan of the Falkens at all. I've had multiple sets and they've underperformed in each case and I had about 60% of the power of the speed and had dialed in suspension on the car I had then. Not even going to consider them again! As far as Hankooks, generally they were good, much better than the Falken's, but I find Kuhmos provide better traction between the two (I've used both on the same car) and the price points are similar.

PSS's are absolutely fine in the wet. Better than my old Toyo Proxes on my old 3. Just get the pilot sport A/S's ... they will be a HUGE upgrade for you and will last a bit longer and work a little later in the season. All seasons vs summer's, the biggest difference is their tolerance to cold which trades off some dry/warm weather performance.



They are decently grippy in the dry for an OEM tire. Wear, noise, comfort, wet, etc are all compromised. That said, run em' till they're done before upgrading.



I don't find the PSS's soft...they track very well when cornering fast/hard, are predictable and afford some extra grip when you reach the limits due to their variable contact patch stuff.

Yeah, I'd still love to grab the PSS's. But that $1000 out the door is just too much for my driving style now. I don't track and even when I do "spirited driving" it's for short stints or long trips. Either way, not enough to justify almost double the other contenders. I have a few other things to do to the Speed and the $$$ only stretches so far!! LOL

Thanks all for the feedback. I'm down to the Kuhmo's, Conti's and Toyo's, now to figure out which of the three???

[loki]

oh civics....y u even try?

[Mr Wilson]

Anyone know the Mazda part number for the rear caliper bracket for an 08's Mz5?

[loki]

Anyone know the Mazda part number for the rear caliper bracket for an 08's Mz5?

Can they go fast enough to need brakes?