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    Default cp-e engine mount question

    I was reading the instruction and it says the contoured side should face the bottom. In the pics right below it, it shows the flat side facing the bottom. Which side should be facing the bottom? the curvy side or flat side?

    I think I have the mount on upside down I installed it like the pics

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    i put mine in with the contoured side facing down seems like its fine but i always thought maybe i put it in backwards

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    I read somewhere if you put the mount wrong side up, the hole will not line for the bolt. So if you were able to put the bolt in, that means its correct side is up.
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    hmm im confused maybe I should contact CPE then. I have it opposite of whitespeed3, contoured side facing the car & flat side facing the floor. My mount is new and in break in period, currently it vibrates a little more then fobio's su mount.

    Their weird instruction pic shows flat side on the bottom and contoured on top.. arggghhh!

    The CPE instructions tells me to take off the other metal piece with three 19mm bolts. With that piece taken off, I think I can install it whatever way I want and it'd line up

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    i've installed the contoured side down, so far no problems
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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    yes it would line up either way but i just read the instructions and didnt even look at the pic when i installed mine

    would be nice to see what cp-e says let us know

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    Curvy side down. The curve is there to offset the cross hole. The way you have it installed, you are preloading the bushing on an angle. You are probably seeing more vibes than you should because of it.



    Kyle, wasn't the picture on the CPE instructions kind of crappy so you couldn't really see the curved part easily?

    They should have CNC'd or stamped 'UP' on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walrus View Post

    Kyle, wasn't the picture on the CPE instructions kind of crappy so you couldn't really see the curved part easily?

    They should have CNC'd or stamped 'UP' on it.

    yes they were crappy...and i agree with you they should have put a mark on it telling which way was up or down.

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    I'm so glad to see this since I am planning to install mine this coming weekend.
    Thanks guys!

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    cpe got back to me and said i installed it upside down and i'm putting negative tension on the mount/bushing/everything.

    the cpe instruction pics were kind of crappy, but it clearly showed the smooth & flat side of the mount is pointing to the bottom in that pic. The contoured part had different grooves and the pics didn't show it.

    off to the shop again tomorrow to get this fixed :/

    the shifting & getting power onto the ground improved signfiantly with this mod. I can downshift back to first now even at 40km/h!!! can't wait for autocross next year.

    this car's tranny/powertrain response/shifting just went from 3 out of 10 to 6.5 out of 10. Still no Honda but it feels like the powertrain is connected together now, not held by glue.
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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    You must have gotten a different instuctions booklet than me. Mine showed the side with the grooves cut out facing the ground.

    Installed mine yesterday and it's vibrating up a storm. All this wait and this thing is no better than the Street Unit mount.

    The Street Unit mount vibrated around 1,000rpm and under 500rpm. The CPE mount vibrates at all RPMs with the majority of the vibrations being between 1,200 and 2,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherB View Post
    You must have gotten a different instuctions booklet than me. Mine showed the side with the grooves cut out facing the ground.

    Installed mine yesterday and it's vibrating up a storm. All this wait and this thing is no better than the Street Unit mount.

    The Street Unit mount vibrated around 1,000rpm and under 500rpm. The CPE mount vibrates at all RPMs with the majority of the vibrations being between 1,200 and 2,000.
    I have the mount on for a week already, vibration got noticable less now. It is about equal to broken in SU mount. Still FAR from "stock like".

    The first few days that I had the mount, it used to vibrate at 3000 to redline. Now I noticed the majority of vibration above 2000 ish rpm is gone. Hopefully it settling down with time.

    The vibration doesn't bother me much its pretty minimum compare to most after market mounts. It does get on my nerves looking for parking at malls for christmas shopping. Clutch in, clutch out, clutch in, clutch out.. feels like I'm sitting in a vibrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherB View Post
    You must have gotten a different instuctions booklet than me. Mine showed the side with the grooves cut out facing the ground.

    Installed mine yesterday and it's vibrating up a storm. All this wait and this thing is no better than the Street Unit mount.

    The Street Unit mount vibrated around 1,000rpm and under 500rpm. The CPE mount vibrates at all RPMs with the majority of the vibrations being between 1,200 and 2,000.
    Give it some time. When I first got mine installed, I was really disappointed. After a month now, the vibrations have more or less gone away. There's a slight hum when idling, and other than when I'm lugging the engine, there is no vibrations

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    I installed mine on Sat and I get crazy vibrations (as expected) up to 2,000rpm but then I don't feel any other vibrations. The wife noticed it right away though, she asked why the car feels broken...LOL Hopefully after a couple of weeks the vibration will be reduced (like you guys say) as it's kind of a pain in rush hour traffic

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    That's the thing, everyone who got the first batch said the vibrations were stock like. Not sure why CPE would change that, considering that that was really the only thing differentiating their mount from all the others out there.

    We'll see... Based on my experience the vibrations don't reduce by much, it's just that we used accustomed to them.

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    Installed mine this weekend with Swales.
    Drove my car for the first time this morning since I installed the Mount.
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    Feedback:
    I noticed a slight buz when starting the car, and when accelerating from a stop for like 1 sec. On idle, I feel nothing.

    I also noticed that the exhaust appears to be louder at all rpm's. Feels like the exhaust growling sound resonates a bit inside the car. I like it!

    Anyway, the car feels like a race car. I can shift to 2nd gear much easier now. Really liking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Installed mine this weekend with Swales.
    Drove my car for the first time this morning since I installed the Mount.
    One Word:

    Feedback:
    I noticed a slight buz when starting the car, and when accelerating from a stop for like 1 sec. On idle, I feel nothing.

    I also noticed that the exhaust appears to be louder at all rpm's. Feels like the exhaust growling sound resonates a bit inside the car. I like it!

    Anyway, the car feels like a race car. I can shift to 2nd gear much easier now. Really liking it.
    Did yours have a black rubber bushing? Mine feels like a horse galloping on start-up so something wrong with one of our mounts. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherB View Post
    That's the thing, everyone who got the first batch said the vibrations were stock like. Not sure why CPE would change that, considering that that was really the only thing differentiating their mount from all the others out there.

    We'll see... Based on my experience the vibrations don't reduce by much, it's just that we used accustomed to them.
    the rubber that they used in the first batch was just too soft for motor mount application. Which is why bunch of them cracked, teared and so on. That is why they increased the duro on the rubber on the 2nd batch. And yes it it bit harder than what it used to be.

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    Mine has the black centre bushing.

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    how much did you guys end up paying for these? I'm looking into doing this mod to make it easier to shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garu View Post
    the rubber that they used in the first batch was just too soft for motor mount application. Which is why bunch of them cracked, teared and so on. That is why they increased the duro on the rubber on the 2nd batch. And yes it it bit harder than what it used to be.
    That's too bad.


    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Mine has the black centre bushing.
    Wow. Very surprising that you think there is no vibration. Are you sure that they didn't accidentally re-install the stock mount?

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    After about 3 weeks of driving with this mount, I found that the vibration has decreased significantly. I can't notice the vibration I got when I first installed the mount.

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    i'v had mine installed for about 3 weeks to a couple of small vibrations but nothing to worried about sometimes i dont even notice them

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    Thanks guys, that's good to know.

    I only have 50KM on the mount so far.

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    Default Re: cp-e engine mount question

    They??

    I installed the Mount myself with 2 other dudes from our Ottawa Mazda Club (Swales was one of them).
    Trust me, it's installed properly and all bolts are torqued to 70lbs as specified by CP-e (used a torque wrench).

    There are some vibrations when taking off, but I don't really feel any at idle.
    I actually noticed that the vibrations I used to feel when taking off from a stop are much less noticeable today.

    Anyway, great mod, car feels sharp, precise, and well connected to the road.
    Car feels much sportier.
    Shifting is also easier. Not going back to stock, love this too much.
    Great CP-e product.


    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherB View Post
    That's too bad.


    Wow. Very surprising that you think there is no vibration. Are you sure that they didn't accidentally re-install the stock mount?

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