Random MS3 Chat Thread

[starscream]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPfxt...ayer_embedded#!

Thats all I have to say about that...I think that 'could' be Fobio on the track Jks...

NEMESIS!

[Tokay444]

Ah. How ignorant of me to assume that people in the ms3 random chat are chatting about the ms3. My bad.

[Elusivellama]

Actually I don't even see why he had posted in here... the posts went from 'clean my MS3' -> 'basic tools' -> 'reflash your ECU, save the whales!' -> 'clean my MS3 v2' -> 'hey i used 91 octane in my mz3' -> 'clean my MS3 v3' -> ??? -> profit

[PR3Y11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPfxt...ayer_embedded#!

Thats all I have to say about that...I think that 'could' be Fobio on the track Jks...

NEMESIS!

Haha that is too funny

[Elusivellama]

Question, for the 2010 MS3.. do you guys ever feel a slight 'notch' on the clutch as you press it down about halfway? Like, if you depress the clutch all the way in, it is smooth but you notice that little bit of notchiness about halfway, almost like the spring is compressing or something. Should I even be feeling this when I step on the clutch?

[starscream]

Question, for the 2010 MS3.. do you guys ever feel a slight 'notch' on the clutch as you press it down about halfway? Like, if you depress the clutch all the way in, it is smooth but you notice that little bit of notchiness about halfway, almost like the spring is compressing or something. Should I even be feeling this when I step on the clutch?

Could be you feeling the engagement point?

[Elusivellama]

Could be you feeling the engagement point?

That was one of my guesses, but is it supposed to be even felt? Does anybody else feel the same thing on their clutch? Basically looking to make sure that it's normal...

[alhope34]

Normal for me.

[Tokay444]

Most hydraulic clutches are devoid of all tactile response. I like that I know right where the engagement point is. I drive an 07.

[SSmoked]

since this thread seems active. just wondering what kinda of summer/street tires you ms3 boys are running. my ss and the ms3s have simular numbers so getting the torque down requires nice tires. if your tuned that would help too as ill be tuned come april.
soo far looks like ill be running 235/40/18 BFG KDW2. reasonible priced, grippy, good wet/dry traction, comfrotable ride. but apperently loud. the noise wont bother me i have a radio.
opinions?

[MajesticBlueNTO]

since this thread seems active. just wondering what kinda of summer/street tires you ms3 boys are running. my ss and the ms3s have simular numbers so getting the torque down requires nice tires. if your tuned that would help too as ill be tuned come april.
soo far looks like ill be running 235/40/18 BFG KDW2. reasonible priced, grippy, good wet/dry traction, comfrotable ride. but apperently loud. the noise wont bother me i have a radio.
opinions?

Hankook V12s...best bang for your summer tire buck. grippy, excellent wet/dry traction, comfortable ride and quiet

it all depends what you want to do with the car in the summer...if you plan to track it, are you gonna get a separate set of R-compounds? The V12 may not like you after a few hard track sessions....don't know much about the KDW2 in that regard.

There are a number of MS3 owners in various states of tune and setup running the V12s.

[alhope34]

I use 235/40r18 falken 912's. I wish I had gotten the 615's, though the 912's seem to have a longer life. People on here seem to really like the Hankook V12 tires, so next time I need a set I think that's what I'll be getting. There's no reason to get a brand like BFG or goodyear, etc. They jack their prices up because of their name. Often times with companies like Hankook or Falken you can get better tires for much less.

[horto]

I'm also shopping for new sticky summers (and rims!). My top two contenders are the Hankook V12's vs Bridgestone Potenzas (RE050's or similar). Thoughts? I'm cheap so leaning towards the Hankook's How are they for treadwear though?

EDIT: I plan to track a 1-3 times this season but I wasn't planning on getting a separate set of R-compounds.

Hankook V12s...best bang for your summer tire buck. grippy, excellent wet/dry traction, comfortable ride and quiet

it all depends what you want to do with the car in the summer...if you plan to track it, are you gonna get a separate set of R-compounds? The V12 may not like you after a few hard track sessions....don't know much about the KDW2 in that regard.

There are a number of MS3 owners in various states of tune and setup running the V12s.

[alhope34]

The stock MS3 tires are the RE050's. After maybe 6-7000 km mine were 1/2 gone. I kept having to rotate them because they wore out so fast. I sold them on my stock MS3 rims. I will never have those tires again and I really hope you don't either. They didn't even grip that much. Not compared to my 235/40 Falken 912's anyway, and the Falkens last a hell of a lot longer.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

Hankook V12s...best bang for your summer tire buck. grippy, excellent wet/dry traction, comfortable ride and quiet

it all depends what you want to do with the car in the summer...if you plan to track it, are you gonna get a separate set of R-compounds? The V12 may not like you after a few hard track sessions....don't know much about the KDW2 in that regard.

There are a number of MS3 owners in various states of tune and setup running the V12s.

+1 on the V12's. Best all-round bang for the buck.

If you plan on doing some auto-cross or semi-regular tracking, then maybe consider an R compound or the Dunlop Direzza Star Specs. I wouldn't recommend the Star Specs for the street though as they are loud, ride towards the harsh side , they wear quickly and are not very good in a heavy rain. They are great in the dry though and for occasional track use.

[SSmoked]

Hankook V12s...best bang for your summer tire buck. grippy, excellent wet/dry traction, comfortable ride and quiet

it all depends what you want to do with the car in the summer...if you plan to track it, are you gonna get a separate set of R-compounds? The V12 may not like you after a few hard track sessions....don't know much about the KDW2 in that regard.

There are a number of MS3 owners in various states of tune and setup running the V12s.

your not the first to suggest those to me. they have good specs too much simular the the KDW2s. close to the same price too.
i dont go racing often, and if so its the 1/4mile. i went about 6 times last year on my stock bald sportcompact 2's.
mostlys i need tires that will hold the torque, which should be around 320.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....W2XL&tab=Specs
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....10XL&tab=Sizes

if we could get a group buy through allen@simply tire for summer tires that would be cool.

r-comps is hard for me. finding a set of wide 17' rims that clear the front calipers is next to impossible with my stupid bolt pattern. not to mention i rarely if if ever autocross/road race.

[horto]

My 07 came with Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S all seasons. Mods have quickly overwhelmed their grip.

I will buy the V12's. Sounds like we need to talk to Allen about a group buy!!! (I pm'd him with reference to this thread)

The stock MS3 tires are the RE050's. After maybe 6-7000 km mine were 1/2 gone. I kept having to rotate them because they wore out so fast. I sold them on my stock MS3 rims. I will never have those tires again and I really hope you don't either. They didn't even grip that much. Not compared to my 235/40 Falken 912's anyway, and the Falkens last a hell of a lot longer.

[Zoom Zoom Boy]

The stock MS3 tires are the RE050's. After maybe 6-7000 km mine were 1/2 gone. I kept having to rotate them because they wore out so fast. I sold them on my stock MS3 rims. I will never have those tires again and I really hope you don't either. They didn't even grip that much. Not compared to my 235/40 Falken 912's anyway, and the Falkens last a hell of a lot longer.

Al, when I had 912's on my MS3 (they came almost new with the rims I bought from a member) they were decent enough, but I found the MS3 would overwhelm them pretty easily. They were good at putting power down in a straight line, but they just didn't have the level of grip i wanted or needed to put power down in turns. You need to be really careful on the throttle and feather it at times or the tires would simply slide. They are very good at providing you feedback when their limits are about to be exceeded though. I was running 225/40/R18's, so your tire size is wider and you would have more grip, but this isn't really a tire I would recommend on a high powered FWD car if you are going to track at all, or push the car hard where corners are involved. Don't get me wrong, I think the Falken 912 is a fantastic tire at its price point and is absolutely terrific on a regular Mazda3, but the MS3 needs more tire than the 912 can give it performance wise.

I'm in for a GB on the V12's if we arrange one.

[SSmoked]

im in for the evo v12's aswell.

nice little tire comp buy car n driver. evos place 2nd next to the dunlop star specs like zoom zoom suggested.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...12_evo_page_10

[MajesticBlueNTO]

I'm also shopping for new sticky summers (and rims!). My top two contenders are the Hankook V12's vs Bridgestone Potenzas (RE050's or similar). Thoughts? I'm cheap so leaning towards the Hankook's How are they for treadwear though?

EDIT: I plan to track a 1-3 times this season but I wasn't planning on getting a separate set of R-compounds.

The V12s should hold up nicely for 1-3 track days...however, if you get bitten by the track bug, you'll be wanting a set of R-compounds (get them used, they're pretty cheap - i.e. <200 for a set) as the V12s just don't have the grip R-compounds do.

[Fobio]

The V12s should hold up nicely for 1-3 track days...however, if you get bitten by the track bug, you'll be wanting a set of R-compounds (get them used, they're pretty cheap - i.e. <200 for a set) as the V12s just don't have the grip R-compounds do.

NOOOO!!!!...lol...the V12's will not hold up to even 1 track day...

I did 3 autox runs with them, they were in well taken cared of condition, just normal wear...then after 3 light runs (I wasn't even timed), I could see the corners or the tread blocks shredding a bit...definitely more wear than I had expected.

I *MIGHT* run them in the wet if I needed a rain tire at the track, but I'd not rely on them to last 3 hot laps in the summer...just a waste, if you do.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

there's also Bailey Tire to consider if you're willing to take a road trip south. He was $200-300 cheaper than local last year.

John at Exclusive also has some good pricing.

another tire to consider, if you got the $$$ and want a dual street/track tire...Yokohama AD08. close to R-compound grip, street tire rain traction and longevity.

[MajesticBlueNTO]

NOOOO!!!!...lol...the V12's will not hold up to even 1 track day...

I did 3 autox runs with them, they were in well taken cared of condition, just normal wear...then after 3 light runs (I wasn't even timed), I could see the corners or the tread blocks shredding a bit...definitely more wear than I had expected.

I *MIGHT* run them in the wet if I needed a rain tire at the track, but I'd not rely on them to last 3 hot laps in the summer...just a waste, if you do.

LOL, i should say "hold up nicely for 1-3 laps..." then

i only ran them in the wet at the DDT and for a few "dry" laps and, comparing to what the car can do with r-comp level grip, i wasn't pushing the V12s as hard in the "dry".

[alhope34]

Al, when I had 912's on my MS3 (they came almost new with the rims I bought from a member) they were decent enough, but I found the MS3 would overwhelm them pretty easily. They were good at putting power down in a straight line, but they just didn't have the level of grip i wanted or needed to put power down in turns. You need to be really careful on the throttle and feather it at times or the tires would simply slide. They are very good at providing you feedback when their limits are about to be exceeded though. I was running 225/40/R18's, so your tire size is wider and you would have more grip, but this isn't really a tire I would recommend on a high powered FWD car if you are going to track at all, or push the car hard where corners are involved. Don't get me wrong, I think the Falken 912 is a fantastic tire at its price point and is absolutely terrific on a regular Mazda3, but the MS3 needs more tire than the 912 can give it performance wise. I wouldn't suggest the 912's for the MS3 unless you're a more calm driver, I was just saying I had them and the 235/40 912's handled better than my 215/45 stock Potenza RE050's.

I'm in for a GB on the V12's if we arrange one.

You are absolutely right, which is why I wished I had gotten the 615's. At the time my new rims and tires all went on my Visa, and the extra $80 for the 615's didn't seem necessary for me. I do a lot of boring straight highway driving between Montreal and Toronto so the 912's were perfectly fine for that, and has a better treadwear rating than the 615's. After a few fun runs up north I wish I had gotten the 615's and sucked up the extra $80 plus however much it would work out to for the tires to wear out much earlier.

[starscream]

Dont bother with RT-615's, just get the Toyo tire discount and get R888. Much better tire and long compound wear. I have heard the same thing from a few racers (some ones that ran Chump Car too).

I am planning on running R888 on the track car...oopz, let the cat outta the bag